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Chair Menin Questions DOT on Sidewalk Clearances and Scaffolding Rules

New York City Council · Apr 23, 2025 · starts 1:47:59 · 2 min 55 sec

Chair Julie Menin questions DOT on the flexibility of sidewalk clearance requirements and how scaffolding rules impact outdoor dining setups.

Julie Menin

We've heard from a lot of restaurants that they're recommending that the city allow for greater flexibility for safe sidewalk cafe clearances, and we heard that issue brought up before, as well as DOT scaffolding requirements and getting clarification on that.

Julie Menin

Have you taken any of those two issues and would you take them moving forward and clarify them so that we're not putting this onerous burden on the applicant?

Margaret Forgioni

So, Chair, are you speaking about our clearance requirements and are we willing to revisit those?

Margaret Forgioni

Yes.

Margaret Forgioni

Okay.

Margaret Forgioni

So what we have done, and you know, things have changed a lot.

Margaret Forgioni

Um, you know, I heard the the folks testifying before us talking about how they've had certain clearance requirements dating back to DCWB's program for decades.

Margaret Forgioni

The needs of the city are constantly changing.

Margaret Forgioni

And as we develop a permanent outdoor dining program, we felt it was very critical to look at what we need now in the city.

Margaret Forgioni

Everyone here is aware we have a ton of competing demands for both sidewalk and roadway in the city.

Margaret Forgioni

But focusing on sidewalk in particular, sidewalks first and foremost, are to be able to get people safely to move from one place to the other.

Margaret Forgioni

So we've developed, and Michelle can talk a little bit more about it, but we have developed some clear path requirements very analytically, looking at land use such as density of the area, height of the buildings, land, you know, land use with hospitals, subway stations, etc., to gauge how much sidewalk space is necessary to safely and comfortably move people.

Margaret Forgioni

So that is the basis for our sidewalk clearances, and we've even accommodated those a little bit further and given a little a few more feet in for each of those categories to dining out.

Margaret Forgioni

But we feel it's very important to be very measured as we approach the permanent program and give a fair amount of space to pedestrians moving on the sidewalks.

Margaret Forgioni

And that's not to say that's not something we won't want to revisit in the future.

Margaret Forgioni

And and any other details you want to add?

Michelle Craven

I'll just add for aside from the pedestrian clear path, which is obviously very important, there are clearance requirements for other elements in the sidewalk, whether they're fire hydrants, subway stairs, bus shelters, whatever else.

Michelle Craven

A lot of those objects already have certain clearances that have to be maintained for them so that they can be used appropriately.

Michelle Craven

But we had a series of interagency meetings, I think starting in 2021, to talk through everybody's infrastructure, the needs that are out there, sister agencies, MTA, utility companies to figure out what's sort of the right size for the different clearances.

Michelle Craven

And we tried to be as flexible as possible for the restaurants to get as many restaurants operating as we could.

Julie Menin

Okay.

Julie Menin

And the fiscal year 2025 November plan added 176,000 for an additional eight headcount positions to process outdoor dining applications.