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Sanchez on OMB daylighting estimates showing lower costs

New York City Council · May 29, 2026 · starts 0:47:33 · 2 min 4 sec

Sanchez cites previous OMB estimates averaging $17,000 per intersection for Intro 1138, far below the $3 billion figure. Flynn and Beaton argue costs don't scale linearly and universal implementation includes more complex sites.

Justin Sanchez

I mean, even if you were to multiply that by four, it would still be far less than the $3 billion in your testimony.

Justin Sanchez

Is that correct?

Eric Beaton

Well, to answer that question, is that correct?

Eric Beaton

To get a full number, you would multiply by eight.

Eric Beaton

So, again, these are round numbers, but that's how you get there.

Justin Sanchez

Are you aware that the previous administration's OMB estimates for Intro 1138, which called to daylight 1,000 intersections per year, included several large additional costs, including $8.7 million for

Justin Sanchez

hardening barrier materials, $1.2 million for personnel services, including fringe to hire staff,

Justin Sanchez

5.5 million for annual personnel services, 780,000 for drive rails, and 420,000 for signage, 63,000 in year one, and 126,000 in year two

Justin Sanchez

for the purchasing of new vehicles and still only average close to just 17,000 per intersection.

Mike Flynn

So that is an average for one intersection.

Mike Flynn

It doesn't scale up equally.

Mike Flynn

And with every number, there's always outliers.

Mike Flynn

So to the point Deputy Commissioner Beaton was making, you can't just take one intersection and extrapolate it that way.

Mike Flynn

Linearly.

Justin Sanchez

This is an OMB estimate for intro 1138.

Justin Sanchez

Which is 1,000 intersections per year.

Eric Beaton

I think when you're picking a limited number of intersections, you can intentionally look for ones that are more straightforward and cost less.

Eric Beaton

When you're talking universally and doing it at every location in the city, you inherently have to do all the more complex ones.

Eric Beaton

And so as Igor said, it doesn't scale exactly the same way.

Margaret Forgione

I mean, I think at the end of the day, we're eager to sit down and work through the details.

Margaret Forgione

And if it's a matter of figuring out what's the most accurate cost, you know, we're happy to be a partner in that.