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Ariola presses Esposito on Bronx fifth firefighter pilot

New York City Council · Jun 1, 2026 · starts 5:26:28 · 3 min 17 sec

Ariola asks whether FDNY would support a Bronx pilot with fifth firefighters in 20 busiest firehouses. Esposito says they would welcome additional resources. Ariola asks about coverage gaps when companies are committed to active calls, with Esposito explaining dispatchers manage resource relocations.

Joann Ariola

Specific engine companies that are statistically overburdened relative to their current staffing based on call volume, run frequency, or simultaneous incident rates, and can you provide data to the committee?

John Esposito

And those are the engine companies that historically, in those 20, that we provide the fifth firefighter to, the ones that have heavier fire duty in those areas that have the bigger buildings.

Joann Ariola

Would you support a pilot program in the Bronx with a fifth firefighter in 20 of their busiest firehouses?

Joann Ariola

Would you support that as an agency?

John Esposito

We would welcome additional resources.

Joann Ariola

Is that something that you're willing to fight with the council for with the Mamdani administration to fund?

John Esposito

We would welcome additional resources to deal with this fire problem that we have.

Joann Ariola

Rather than a binary choice between full citywide development and no deployment and no deployment, has the FDNY evaluated a tiered

Joann Ariola

or phased approach that prioritizes the highest need companies first?

Joann Ariola

And if you have, you know, how would you prioritize that and the deployment of the firefighter?

John Esposito

Those fires in the Bronx that we're seeing generally in six and seven story buildings that are over 100 years old, old building stock,

John Esposito

The potential for spread in those buildings is high.

John Esposito

Some of these fires, the fire raced up through the stairway, so it's long hose line stretches.

John Esposito

And you can compare that to Queens that in some parts have smaller buildings, shorter hose line stretches.

John Esposito

So that fifth firefighter would be...

John Esposito

Much better off in areas with larger buildings, longer hose line stretches.

Joann Ariola

And does the fire department track instances where a company is committed to an active call and a second call comes in requiring a delayed or cross-district response?

John Esposito

That's something that we don't currently track.

John Esposito

So we know, though, that in those areas, those busier areas with the companies that are doing,

John Esposito

responding to more incidents, that there are times they're on one, and then another company has to come over and respond to an incident because that original company is not available.

Joann Ariola

And when that other company comes over, doesn't that leave a gap in coverage for a large portion of that particular area that the second apparatus would be covering?

John Esposito

I would dispass.

John Esposito

Watchers in the communications office are able to manage and move resources around the city.

John Esposito

So if they do see a gap in that coverage, then they'll move another company over as well.

Joann Ariola

So kind of someone is always without coverage.

Joann Ariola

Like if you keep moving them, somebody's always without coverage.

Joann Ariola

If you keep moving them along.

John Esposito

We continually assess and move resources around.

Joann Ariola

All right.

Joann Ariola

At this point, I'd like to go over to my panel for questions on Fifth Firefighter.

Joann Ariola

Oh, your panel.

Joann Ariola

Yeah, well, we have anybody who's the next up.

Joann Ariola

Oh, okay, yes.

Joann Ariola

Sorry, yes.

Joann Ariola

And if anybody wants to talk about Fifth Firefighter and you already spoke, just please sign up for second round.

Joann Ariola

Got it.