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CM Epstein on after-school access, literacy, and District 75 internships

New York City Council · Jun 8, 2026 · starts 4:47:10 · 7 min 20 sec

Council Member Epstein raises racial and economic segregation in after-school access with only 184,000 slots for 250,000 Title I students, literacy intervention needs, and District 75 internship denials. Deputy Chancellor Gentes describes MTSS and NYC Reads expansion, and Foti commits to investigating internship denials.

Harvey D. Epstein

Thank you all, thank you for your time.

Harvey D. Epstein

I wanna talk about after school.

Harvey D. Epstein

You know, there are about 250,000 students who get Title I funding, only about 184,000 after school slots.

Harvey D. Epstein

So what we're seeing, especially down by me, is racial segregation and economic segregation because we don't have free after school.

Harvey D. Epstein

Jessler, how are we gonna solve this and can we solve this soon?

UNKNOWN

Look, I think we see this issue around the city, and it's certainly an issue where, you know, it's also an issue of the type of

UNKNOWN

after-school provider and what actually we're getting in terms of quality.

UNKNOWN

And I think, you know, schools also work with providers to make sure that they have the ones that don't, you know, are not funded by Title I, that they have scholarships for young people and all this.

UNKNOWN

But it's a very difficult thing for a school by itself to ensure the equity in after-school programs.

Harvey D. Epstein

But don't we have a responsibility to make sure that our schools are racially and economically integrated?

Harvey D. Epstein

And after-school is a critical component to it.

UNKNOWN

I'm proud of that.

Harvey D. Epstein

And, you know, I've talked to DYCD about this.

Harvey D. Epstein

Can we get a commitment from you that we can get a plan to ensure that, especially for our Title I families, they'll have access to free after-school in some period of time?

Harvey D. Epstein

Because that's what we really need.

UNKNOWN

Yeah, so, you know, that's part, I think this is certainly a partnership between us and DYCD.

UNKNOWN

And I know we have some expansion plans and so on, but I'm going to turn it over to Flavia to talk a little bit more.

UNKNOWN

Thank you for the question, Council Member Epstein.

UNKNOWN

I do want to flag that there was a commission assembled towards the end of the prior administration that was really a cross-sector commission on this notion of

UNKNOWN

Universal after school.

UNKNOWN

So we know that the vast majority of funding for after school for the whole city comes through DYCD.

UNKNOWN

Then the rest of it is funded through community schools.

UNKNOWN

A lot of the community schools that I mentioned have the capacity to do that work.

UNKNOWN

We also have LEAPS, which is a state-funded grant that goes directly to CVOs that can do that.

UNKNOWN

As a parent who benefits from after school myself, because I have a child that attends New York City Public School, I know that this is something that all the communities, especially in areas of need, welcome.

UNKNOWN

And this is something that I welcome the opportunity to partner with you and all of the agencies and CVOs that were part of this discussion so that we could actually look at that report that was published less than a year ago,

UNKNOWN

some of the first steps to get into that vision about university after school, the funding that it will take and the collaboration between the agencies, the OHMH who offers the license because it's a multi-layered step, but it's the right

UNKNOWN

effort to pursue and push.

Harvey D. Epstein

Yeah, I'm happy to work with Chair Dinowitz, Chair Stevens, and to kind of move this forward.

Harvey D. Epstein

This is something we see as a racial justice issue and economic justice issue.

Harvey D. Epstein

Chair, if I can just get another minute.

Harvey D. Epstein

So I know at the preliminary budget hearings we talked a lot about

Harvey D. Epstein

literacy issues and making sure that young people, you know, if they get to third grade and they still aren't reading and writing, they're not getting support.

Harvey D. Epstein

And we see this school to prison pipeline and talked a lot about.

Harvey D. Epstein

out trying to get to people earlier in their education.

Harvey D. Epstein

Mentioned Literacy Academy, which does a lot of great work, and the two literacy dyslexic schools that were started in the prior administration.

Harvey D. Epstein

I haven't seen anything in this budget that would advance the issues of trying to ensure that our young people are getting the support that they need.

Harvey D. Epstein

And I want to just stress that, you know, we really need that because, honestly, if a kid by third grade isn't learning to read, the chance of them, you know, unfortunately failing later in life just in time goes up exponentially.

Harvey D. Epstein

We'd love to see some commitments here.

Harvey D. Epstein

Happy to be as supportive as I possibly can to make sure that happens and ensure those young people get the support that they need.

UNKNOWN

Yeah.

UNKNOWN

So we are completely committed to ensuring that all of our young people are able to read.

UNKNOWN

And if they're not able to do so by third grade, that we have systems in place that we are developing and have developed to get them on track.

UNKNOWN

The main thing that we are doing is our multi-tiered system of support, our MTSS.

UNKNOWN

I'm going to turn it over to our first deputy chancellor to speak in more detail about that.

UNKNOWN

But this is an opportunity for every school across the city to be able to implement this well.

UNKNOWN

Thank you for your question and passionate literacy fan.

UNKNOWN

Building off of Chancellor's comments, you know, our commitment to expanding New York City reads is one such step.

UNKNOWN

We've expanded our reach now into middle schools.

UNKNOWN

And so New York City Reads lives across all of our elementary schools and most of our middle schools at this point.

UNKNOWN

We're layering that in with multi-tiered systems of support, which he just said, which is the using of screeners to really catch where kids are missing

UNKNOWN

key concepts in tier one and being able to really pinpoint what it is that's getting in their way and aligns high-quality intervention to help catch them up.

UNKNOWN

But it doesn't just live just there.

UNKNOWN

It's also a close partnership with Deputy Chancellor Foti and the specialized programs that she's seeking to grow and the work of universal child care, because we all know and agree, like, the sooner we get our kids in a literacy-rich environment

UNKNOWN

in a thriving way and then in supports when they need them is the critical difference.

UNKNOWN

As it relates to the literacy academies that you spoke of, I have recently been able to meet with the team and learned so much more about their work.

UNKNOWN

And yes, we are in very early conversations around expanding those schools, and I know they're very interested in bringing one to Queens.

Harvey D. Epstein

Great.

Harvey D. Epstein

I look forward to whatever help I can provide on that because those six-week intensive programs really work.

Harvey D. Epstein

And the last thing I'll just flag is love that we're doing more internships.

Harvey D. Epstein

I have a District 75 school there.

Harvey D. Epstein

Kids are thriving for internships.

Harvey D. Epstein

They were denied this year to get those internships.

Harvey D. Epstein

Is there anything we can do to create more opportunities?

Harvey D. Epstein

I have schools where the kids are in the country less than two years, and those young people want internships.

Harvey D. Epstein

They're able to get some resources.

Harvey D. Epstein

As much as we can do, because we're going to keep those kids in school if we get those internships and money and opportunity.

Harvey D. Epstein

Otherwise, we see high dropout rates in those schools.

Christina Foti

Yeah, absolutely, Councilmember.

Christina Foti

If you could send me the information on those, I'm very curious to know about why that was the case.

Christina Foti

If it was perhaps travel that was in the way, I do want to say that we are deeply interested in expanding our travel training programs.

Christina Foti

That is often a barrier of why kids have a District 75 struggle to get their work-based learning opportunities.

Christina Foti

And we've seen incredible results via our travel training.

Christina Foti

So I will definitely dig in and, yes, looking to expand this opportunity.

Harvey D. Epstein

We would love to follow up, and I'll have my team reach out to you directly.

Harvey D. Epstein

Thank you.

Harvey D. Epstein

Thank you, Chairs.

Christina Foti

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