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CM Banks questions OMB on comprehensive modernization vs privatization for NYCHA

New York City Council · Jun 9, 2026 · starts 1:46:29 · 2 min 24 sec

Banks presses on why the administration relies on PACT conversions rather than comprehensive modernization, calling it privatization. Boirard explains CompMod doesn't draw down federal Section 8 resources and would require the city to pick up full development costs, which is less efficient.

Chris Banks

If you can give us some clearer numbers as to how much is going into each, because obviously you've abandoned comprehensive modernization, which is something that has worked and continues to preserve public housing.

Chris Banks

And you've continuously

Chris Banks

dumped more monies into privatization of public housing, and that is definitely concerning.

Chris Banks

And that leads me to my next question, if I may, Chair.

Chris Banks

The mayor's housing plan recognizes NYCHA's critical role in addressing New York City's housing crisis, and I've heard that continuously.

Chris Banks

Why does the administration continue to rely heavily on private development partnerships and RADPAC conversions rather than the advancing

Chris Banks

a comprehensive strategy to reinvest and preserve traditional Section 9 public housing?

Chris Banks

It seems contrary to his philosophy.

Tara Boirard

I think if you look at the numbers, it tells a clear story.

Chris Banks

I've seen the numbers.

Tara Boirard

Okay, I'm just answering your question.

Tara Boirard

If you're looking at the total budget amount, you'll see a total of $22 billion going to housing.

Tara Boirard

A full quarter of that amount is going to NYCHA.

Tara Boirard

Of that amount, you have over half going to Section 9 preservation.

Tara Boirard

And within the balance that's going to PACT and TRUST, a substantial amount will be going to the TRUST, which is fully within NYCHA management control.

Chris Banks

And the, just want clarity, the administration continuously uses the word comprehensive or NYCHA renovations.

Chris Banks

Is that just a coded word for privatization of public housing?

Chris Banks

Of public housing?

Tara Boirard

I think that actually refers to the

Tara Boirard

the level of upgrade that's going to be done to the developments as opposed to...

Chris Banks

So in that term that's being used, it's not privatization of public housing.

Tara Boirard

I couldn't really speak to where you're seeing the term being used.

Tara Boirard

I think in general, if you're talking about...

Chris Banks

This was in the director's...

Tara Boirard

I believe if you're looking at comprehensive modernization, you're really looking at hard costs within the developments and what it takes to upgrade each of the apartments.

Chris Banks

And my last question.

Tara Boirard

Can I put you in round two?

Tara Boirard

Is that okay?

Tara Boirard

I'm sorry.

Chris Banks

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Tara Boirard

Great.

Tara Boirard

Okay.