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Zhuang presses DOE on G&T and special education data gaps

New York City Council · Jun 24, 2026 · starts 1:11:19 · 5 min 25 sec

Zhuang continues pressing for data on G&T program effects on later life outcomes and current program distribution in black and brown communities. DOE officials acknowledge they did not bring G&T-specific data. Suzanne Sanchez introduces herself as Chief of Special Education. Dinowitz instructs DOE to provide answers before leaving the hearing.

Susan Zhuang

Okay, I have questions.

Susan Zhuang

So who can answer the questions?

Veronica Cuellar

Myself and my colleague Liana will support with that.

Susan Zhuang

Okay.

Susan Zhuang

Only 12.5% of children with disability in New York City schools are white.

Susan Zhuang

What percentage of tuition payment for students with disability are...

Susan Zhuang

Oh, this is not for you guys.

Susan Zhuang

Right.

Susan Zhuang

What effect does participation in elementary GNT program have on getting into specialized high school?

Susan Zhuang

Do you guys have information?

Veronica Cuellar

We don't have that information at this moment.

Susan Zhuang

Okay.

Susan Zhuang

But I did the research.

Susan Zhuang

I have the information.

Susan Zhuang

They have 12% more chance kids getting to a specialized high school.

Susan Zhuang

And also, that program really benefited low-income students in New York City.

Susan Zhuang

And next question, what effect does being a gifted and talented program have on those children later in their life?

Veronica Cuellar

We don't have that information at this moment.

Susan Zhuang

Okay.

Susan Zhuang

Have being in different talent program increased expected wage by 9%?

Susan Zhuang

Do you know, do you have information about what current different talent program in

Susan Zhuang

black and the brown community.

Susan Zhuang

Do you guys have any data or you can help me to get some data?

Danielle Junta

Council members Wang, do you have data for us to share?

Danielle Junta

I don't want to, I was just going to say we did not bring the team prepared with data specific to gifted and talented today.

Danielle Junta

We brought the team to speak to AI and screen time more so we can accept your questions and note them and also follow up for the spaces that we're not specifically ready to answer you.

Susan Zhuang

But it is in the hearings agenda, right?

Susan Zhuang

About two bills I have today.

Susan Zhuang

But you guys did not prepare to answer my questions.

Susan Zhuang

A lot of family depend on the answers.

Susan Zhuang

They want to know the answers.

Susan Zhuang

This is how, this shows again why those special needs family get ignored.

Susan Zhuang

And the gifted and talented program get ignored, especially in black and the brown community.

Susan Zhuang

And now even doesn't have people come here to testify.

Susan Zhuang

This is how we're going to respect those families.

Leanna Wright

We do have data publicly available on our website that shows the demographics of students enrolled in gifted and talented programs.

Susan Zhuang

And by neighborhood, too?

Leanna Wright

By district, we have the number of students from every district who apply to gifted and talented and receive offers every year.

Susan Zhuang

Can you tell me for the record what's the ratio in Manhattan, what's the ratio in Brooklyn?

Eric Dinowitz

I'm sorry, as you answer, please state your name for the record.

Leanna Wright

Yeah, my name is Leanna Wright from the Office of Student Enrollment.

Leanna Wright

I don't have all of the numbers in front of me, but we can share the links to where they're posted on the website.

Susan Zhuang

If no one comes here to prepare, then why come?

Danielle Junta

I think some of the bill that you were asking about also is from the mayor's office who provided some written testimony in response to your bill as well.

Susan Zhuang

The response is...

Danielle Junta

That's my understanding.

Susan Zhuang

It said there's no purview.

Danielle Junta

Over the gifted and talented.

Susan Zhuang

Yes.

Susan Zhuang

Said the no purview.

Susan Zhuang

That's it.

Susan Zhuang

didn't say why, where, who has the purview.

Susan Zhuang

If they don't have the purview, we don't know which department can answer my question.

Danielle Junta

Well, we run the gifted and talented screening and admissions process.

Danielle Junta

It is housed within the Division of Early Childhood, and then it is for our children entering kindergarten currently.

Danielle Junta

If we don't have the data to speak specifically to that's not necessarily publicly available, we will follow up and get that.

Susan Zhuang

And that's the reason I asked on my bill.

Susan Zhuang

We need to have that data available.

Susan Zhuang

And everyone says it's not in their purview, no one in charge of this data.

Susan Zhuang

I don't know which department is going to work on this issue.

Susan Zhuang

And also, for the disability students,

Susan Zhuang

Special needs students, no one come to testify.

Susan Zhuang

Just said, we agree on your purpose, but that's no information at all.

Susan Zhuang

You got support or not support?

Susan Zhuang

Who gonna answer the question?

Eric Dinowitz

Council Member Joann, I'm just gonna ask the DOE, there's a lot of you here.

Eric Dinowitz

All with tons of data.

Eric Dinowitz

And I think before you leave today, I think you can testify to what the data

Eric Dinowitz

and answer her questions.

Eric Dinowitz

I understand you don't have it in front of you now, but before you leave, you should have that and testify to that.

Eric Dinowitz

Thank you.

Eric Dinowitz

And then this will be the last, and then we'll move on to Councilmember Aviles.

Suzanne Sanchez

Councilmember Suzanne Sanchez, Chief of Special Education, and I am here to answer any questions around students with disabilities that you may have.

Dennis Doyle

Okay.

Eric Dinowitz

We're going to go on to the next member, but any of the questions that she had previously asked, before you leave today, we'll testify to.

Eric Dinowitz

I think you could find it between now and then.

Eric Dinowitz

Okay?

Eric Dinowitz

Thank you.

Eric Dinowitz

Councilmember Aviles on Zoom.

Dennis Doyle

I will come back.