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Public Testimony

Jonathan Spooner (Stacks and Jewels) on building automation for nonprofits

New York City Council · Jun 26, 2026 · starts 2:04:19 · 2 min 2 sec

Jonathan Spooner of Stacks and Jewels describes how nonprofits operate major real estate portfolios with energy as their second largest expense. He proposes a coordinated funding program for building automation that creates a workforce pipeline while redirecting energy savings back into social services, asking the committee to champion the initiative.

Member of the Public - Jonathan Spooner

There we go.

Member of the Public - Jonathan Spooner

Good afternoon, council members.

Member of the Public - Jonathan Spooner

Thank you for the opportunity to testify.

Member of the Public - Jonathan Spooner

I'm Johnson Struner, co-founder of Stacks and Jewels.

Member of the Public - Jonathan Spooner

We work at the intersection of building technology and community impact in New York City in partnership with Henry Street Settlement, NYC ETC, and the Green Economy Network.

Member of the Public - Jonathan Spooner

Nonprofits across this city quietly operate a major portfolio of real estate.

Member of the Public - Jonathan Spooner

Shelters, health clinics, community centers, affordable housing.

Member of the Public - Jonathan Spooner

They're mission driven, but they're also building operators.

Member of the Public - Jonathan Spooner

And that role carries real cost.

Member of the Public - Jonathan Spooner

Energy is often a nonprofit's second largest expense after staffing.

Member of the Public - Jonathan Spooner

For an organization running a domestic violence shelter or mental health clinic, every dollar lost to an inefficient boiler is a dollar not reaching the people walking through the door.

Member of the Public - Jonathan Spooner

Add local law 97 penalties and the financial pressure competes directly with their mission.

Member of the Public - Jonathan Spooner

But building automation, smart controls, sensors, energy management, can cut energy use by 30%.

Member of the Public - Jonathan Spooner

But the upfront cost and complexity put it out of reach for most nonprofits without public support.

Member of the Public - Jonathan Spooner

Here's the opportunity for the community.

Member of the Public - Jonathan Spooner

A coordinated funding program for building automation does two things at once.

Member of the Public - Jonathan Spooner

First, it creates a durable workforce pipeline installing and maintaining these systems as a skilled, well-paying job that can't be offshored, and we can train New Yorkers from the very communities these nonprofits serve.

Member of the Public - Jonathan Spooner

Second, the energy savings can be redirected back into those social services, meaningfully replacing operating budget and restoring to mission.

Member of the Public - Jonathan Spooner

This needs three things, a capital funding mechanism, a workforce training partner, and a champion in this chamber.

Member of the Public - Jonathan Spooner

We are asking this committee to be that champion.

Member of the Public - Jonathan Spooner

Thank you very much.