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Won asks how 400K forecast was calculated

New York City Council · Jun 26, 2026 · starts 0:45:27 · 1 min 52 sec

Perry explains the 400,000 was a projection based on information at the time including enormous federal investments that did not follow through. Won presses for which funding levels and jobs-per-funding estimates were used, arguing the projection should be recalculated given current realities.

Douglas Perry

Thanks for the question, Chair Juan.

Douglas Perry

Like I said before, there are certain data limitations given the availability of data sets.

Douglas Perry

So we're not able to...

Julie Won

Right, but I'm saying why did you guys forecast 400,000?

Julie Won

How did you get to that number is what I'm asking you.

Douglas Perry

The 400,000 number was a projection based on the information at the time the report was developed, which included the enormous amount of investments from the federal government.

Douglas Perry

Unfortunately, that investment, all of that investment did not follow through.

Julie Won

Let's break down that investment.

Julie Won

So can you help me understand for which level of funding and how many jobs per funding you are estimating for so that we got to the 400,000?

Julie Won

Because then we should recalculate how many jobs we're really expecting by 2040 and break that down.

Julie Won

Because we're trying to become, we want to be realistic here.

Julie Won

So we want to understand what we're actually dealing with here.

Julie Won

We can't just be projecting fake numbers to people with fake hopes.

Douglas Perry

I think the point is well taken, Chair Juan.

Douglas Perry

I will underscore what I said before, that that 400 job number is a projection based on four different factors, local, state, federal policy, public investments, private investments.

Douglas Perry

Which policies, how much money are we talking about?

Julie Won

We can break down the 400,000 jobs.

Sam Jung

We're unable to do that at that point, at this point, because the methodology doesn't lend itself to a clear answer.

Julie Won

Okay, so then help me understand how you got to the 400,000 to begin with.

Sam Jung

So we took a wide...

Sam Jung

Wide spreading methodology that incorporates analysis of the various four factors that I just mentioned to you before and did

Sam Jung

analysis that accounted for the different peaks and valleys of different industry growth cycles, public policy milestones, etc.

Sam Jung

Which industries and which cycles?

Sam Jung

To come up with a cumulative figure that is 400,000 jobs by 2040.