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Jason Haber testifies on data privacy risks of the 900,000-property list

New York City Council · Aug 18, 2026 · starts 0:28:23 · 3 min 22 sec

Jason Haber of the American Real Estate Association criticizes the publication of 959,710 names and addresses as a gift to fraudsters. He argues the list creates practical obscurity concerns and questions why the burden is on individuals rather than government.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

Thank you.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

Good afternoon.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

My name is Jason Haber.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

I'm the co-founder of the American Real Estate Association and the president of NYRAC, the leading real estate voice here in the city.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

I've also been a licensed real estate broker for 20 years.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

First, a thank you to the council.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

You know, when the state legislature first proposed this tax in the first place, there was no hearing on the tax.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

And so today is actually citizens'first opportunity to speak to a legislative body about the tax, and in today's case, in its execution.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

So thank you for that, Madam Chair.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

Let's begin with the obvious.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

Let's begin with the docs.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

The city published 959,710 names and addresses on a downloadable spreadsheet.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

With two clicks, a person could download an entire list larger than the population of San Francisco.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

Imagine the gift that this is to fraudsters, to scammers, to anyone with ill will.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

Now, what does the administration have to say about the release of this information?

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

Well, we heard from the letter that they're not able to comment today yet in 2016 during pending litigation, in 2017 during pending litigation.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

They appeared before this council, yet not today.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

They will tell you, though, that this information was already public, but there is a difference between public

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

and published.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

Any one of these records could be pulled from ACRIS, but to pull 959,710 records would take a

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

single person working eight hours a day, five days a week, 15 years, or roughly 498 scaramuchis, depending on how you mark time.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

Now the courts have a name for this.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

They call it practical obscurity.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

The Supreme Court principle that information no one can feasibly assemble is functionally private.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

That obscurity was willfully erased by the city.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

The Department of Finance did 15 years of labor for anyone who wished these New Yorkers harm.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

They handed it out, sorted it, and searchable for free.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

And what did this list have to do with the tax in the first place?

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

According to officials, the pool of taxed homes is around 13,000.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

So how did that swell 74 times?

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

And why is the burden on the individual instead of on the enormity of government?

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

Why is it guilty until proven resident?

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

Councilmember Brewer herself was on the list, as she said.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

Although, to be fair, Councilmember Brewer is at 10 events a night and sometimes in two places at once.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

So perhaps for her, it is a pied-a-terre since she's never there and always out in the community.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

Look, I'm not here to litigate the tax itself.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

That debate is not with this body.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

But I'm here to talk about the execution and when that execution fails its citizens.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

Was this a dox by accident, by incompetence, or hubris?

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

Keep asking questions.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

The citizens of New York deserve better.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

They deserve to know why this happened.

Member of the Public - Jason Haber

Thank you.

Gale A. Brewer

Thank you.

Gale A. Brewer

Next.

Gale A. Brewer

Quiet, quiet, quiet, quiet, quiet.

Gale A. Brewer

Go ahead, next.