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Chair Schulman on remediation thresholds and comparison to Toronto standards

New York City Council · Sep 2, 2026 · starts 2:54:31 · 1 min 34 sec

Schulman asks about NYC's remediation threshold of 1,000 CFU/ml versus Toronto's 10, and whether lowering it would help. Martin and Schiff clarify that NYC also requires action at the 10 CFU level, matching Toronto's standard.

Lynn C. Schulman

Based on current DOHMH rules, full remediation including cleaning and hyperhalogenation.

Lynn C. Schulman

Is only required when Legionella culture results from a cooling tower indicate levels of the bacteria above a thousand CFU milliliters.

Lynn C. Schulman

In Toronto, they do it at 10, which obviously is really low.

Lynn C. Schulman

We do it at a really high.

Lynn C. Schulman

Do you think that if we lowered that, that that would be helpful?

Unidentified speaker

Yeah, let me say a few words and then hand it to Deputy Commissioner Corinne Schiff.

Unidentified speaker

First of all, we are in communication with the team in Vancouver.

Lynn C. Schulman

Okay.

Unidentified speaker

And we are working closely to learn from them, and they are learning from us.

Unidentified speaker

There is this question of what to do at the 10 CFU line when it comes to the bacteria levels.

Unidentified speaker

We both agree, our system and Vancouver's system, that that needs to be treated.

Unidentified speaker

And that is what happens here.

Unidentified speaker

We do demand and require that building owners treat at that 10 unit level.

Unidentified speaker

So, you know, things are not going untreated here.

Unidentified speaker

But there is a difference beyond the treatment, and I'll hand it to Deputy Commissioner Kernship.

Dr. Howard

I agree, Commissioner.

Dr. Howard

The level that you just...

Dr. Howard

referenced chair is the same level that we have here.

Dr. Howard

Our regulation has very detailed requirements for levels of Legionella bacteria and the corrective action that is required, and ours starts at that very same level that you have cited for Toronto.

Lynn C. Schulman

Thank you.