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Public Testimony

Charlotte Pope of NYCLU testifies on AI vendor evasiveness and pilot concerns

New York City Council · Sep 15, 2026 · starts 3:23:40 · 1 min 50 sec

Charlotte Pope of the NYCLU describes AI vendors shifting language to evade city policy, vendors celebrating pilot announcements, and concerns about student monitoring and inability to opt out of pilot classrooms.

Member of the Public - Charlotte Pope

Hi, my name is Charlotte Pope.

Member of the Public - Charlotte Pope

I'm with the New York Civil Liberties Union.

Member of the Public - Charlotte Pope

Thank you so much.

Member of the Public - Charlotte Pope

Since the June oversight, we've seen a lot of scary shifts, like AI ed tech vendors providing coaching to school leaders to help them rebrand AI and sell screen time to families.

Member of the Public - Charlotte Pope

Educators tell us that their DOE inboxes are full of vendors assuring them that their AI products comply with city policy.

Member of the Public - Charlotte Pope

The chancellor said publicly that DOE shouldn't be responsible for combing through every product, but right now that burden falls on teachers, students, and families to scour vendor materials.

Member of the Public - Charlotte Pope

But these products are slippery.

Member of the Public - Charlotte Pope

After policy prohibited AI grading, vendors that once sold AI grading systems now instead call it AI feedback or AI insights or AI scoring.

Member of the Public - Charlotte Pope

An electronic hall pass vendor recently changed their branding from, quote, AI powered to, quote, a rules-based algorithm.

Member of the Public - Charlotte Pope

AI vendors are simply shifting their language to squeeze into really imprecise city policy.

Member of the Public - Charlotte Pope

When the mayor endorsed five pilot products for high schools, those vendors instantly celebrated through press releases, emphasizing how safe their products are and saying these pilots are for collecting evidence about AI.

Member of the Public - Charlotte Pope

We're concerned about how students will be monitored to collect this evidence on top of their inability to opt out of these classrooms.

Member of the Public - Charlotte Pope

Thank you, Chair, for talking about the issue of consent.

Member of the Public - Charlotte Pope

Thank you also for calling.

Member of the Public - Charlotte Pope

Alling students in these pilots test subjects, DOE's answers about data collection are worrying and we'll watch for this so-called pilot framework.

Member of the Public - Charlotte Pope

The great progress we've made makes AI governance even more important and thank you for the continued close oversight and we appreciate your partnership.

Member of the Public - Charlotte Pope

We have a lot more in our submitted testimony.

Member of the Public - Charlotte Pope

Thank you.

Unidentified speaker

Thank you.