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Chair Stevens on TIL 24-month maximum stay regulation

New York City Council · Sep 16, 2026 · starts 0:47:28 · 1 min 58 sec

Stevens questions why TIL programs have a 24-month maximum stay and what happens when youth can't find housing. Thorne explains it's an OCFS state regulation, and providers can exit and re-enroll youth under the age limit. Stevens calls the process senseless and asks if DYCD is pushing OCFS to change it; Thorne confirms ongoing discussions.

Althea V. Stevens

I have a question around the TIL program.

Althea V. Stevens

And I feel like sometimes I just, maybe my brain don't work.

Althea V. Stevens

But the two programs allow young people to remain in a shelter for 24 months while they're working towards securing permanent housing.

Althea V. Stevens

Why is there a minimum length, I mean a maximum length of stay for 24 months?

Althea V. Stevens

And what happens when a young person reaches 24 months limit, but they have been unable to...

Althea V. Stevens

Find permanent housing.

Tracy Thorne

The 24 months is part of OCFS regulations.

Tracy Thorne

So that's the time.

Althea V. Stevens

Regulation.

Tracy Thorne

The regulation is that you can be in the till for up to 24 months.

Tracy Thorne

If the youth is still under the age, the provider can always exit and reenter the youth.

Tracy Thorne

So that youth doesn't have to leave, but the max time.

Althea V. Stevens

So they would, what do you mean they have to leave?

Althea V. Stevens

So they would have to like unregister and then register again to stay in this whole program?

Tracy Thorne

Absolutely, if they're under the age.

Althea V. Stevens

But what does that, what sense does that make?

Tracy Thorne

Well, because we have to follow the regulations, right?

Tracy Thorne

So,

Tracy Thorne

It's like the regulations.

Althea V. Stevens

Are we pushing to change this at the state level?

Althea V. Stevens

Because that sounds good.

Tracy Thorne

Yes, we are.

Althea V. Stevens

Okay, because I haven't heard about it.

Althea V. Stevens

Nobody told me.

Tracy Thorne

We've been working with OCFS to discuss it.

Althea V. Stevens

Tell me so I can advocate too.

Althea V. Stevens

Okay.

Althea V. Stevens

Because that doesn't make sense.

Althea V. Stevens

So we make the kid walk out the door and come back in and be like, fill out the paperwork again?

Tracy Thorne

We don't actually do it like that, Cher.

Tracy Thorne

We just say, oh, she's coming up to her time.

Tracy Thorne

Let's just re-enroll her.

Althea V. Stevens

And so they would have to, like, refill the paperwork out.

Tracy Thorne

No, well, PTS keeps up with the job.

Althea V. Stevens

It's not real?

Althea V. Stevens

I don't like stuff that don't make sense.

Althea V. Stevens

I just hate it.

Tracy Thorne

It's real.

Tracy Thorne

We have to.

Althea V. Stevens

Because we're listening to the regulation, but it sounds like it's weird.

Althea V. Stevens

So, like, why are we not just telling OCFS this is stupid?

Althea V. Stevens

Let's figure something else out.

Althea V. Stevens

I don't like stupid stuff, so.

Tracy Thorne

Right, but we are working with OCFS.

Tracy Thorne

They're in the process of redoing their regulations, and that's part of the discussions, the length of stay in Tilsen crisis.

Althea V. Stevens

Let me add that to my list of things to advocate at the state for because I don't like stupid stuff and that doesn't sound like it makes sense.