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Public Testimony

O'Grady testimony: Samaritans hotline and concerns about 988 practices

New York City Council · Sep 18, 2026 · starts 2:46:10 · 2 min 56 sec

O'Grady describes Samaritans' completely confidential and anonymous hotline answering 60,000+ calls annually without call-tracing technology. She raises concerns about 988's involuntary hospitalization practices, noting that those hospitalized against their will are at higher risk for future suicide, and calls for more nuanced harm assessment.

Member of the Public - Fiodhna O'Grady

We operate New York City's only completely confidential and anonymous 24-hour suicide prevention hotline.

Member of the Public - Fiodhna O'Grady

We answer 60-plus thousand calls a year.

Member of the Public - Fiodhna O'Grady

And we don't even have the technology to trace a call.

Member of the Public - Fiodhna O'Grady

And, you know, there are 400 Samaritan centers in 40 plus countries worldwide.

Member of the Public - Fiodhna O'Grady

And we all believe in that dictum.

Member of the Public - Fiodhna O'Grady

And I have seen and we know from the studies, too, to also be careful.

Member of the Public - Fiodhna O'Grady

When we absolutely agree that 988 is a brilliant service, but we also know that statistically those who are hospitalized

Member of the Public - Fiodhna O'Grady

without permission from the person, because they have been...

Member of the Public - Fiodhna O'Grady

they've made the phone call to 988 and the person answering the call, if they determine that that person is

Member of the Public - Fiodhna O'Grady

either at risk for harming themselves or others, then they can decide to trace the call and bring help to that person.

Member of the Public - Fiodhna O'Grady

Who then goes to the hospital or is in with police, et cetera.

Member of the Public - Fiodhna O'Grady

And we know that they

Member of the Public - Fiodhna O'Grady

will be more at risk for suicide and have not learned to turn towards that kind of behavior.

Member of the Public - Fiodhna O'Grady

So I think also having the 988, you know, to continue to have a more nuanced approach to the assessment of harm to others and especially harm to yourself.

Member of the Public - Fiodhna O'Grady

Is one and that's why I speak about you can have suicidal thoughts, you can have the means available, you know how to do it but you don't have a time set.

Member of the Public - Fiodhna O'Grady

So you reach the edge of the cliff when all of those and so that is like on our suicide

Member of the Public - Fiodhna O'Grady

prevention hotline, that's our way of teaching and preaching.

Member of the Public - Fiodhna O'Grady

And also, yes, you're calling an anonymous line, but ultimately you're calling a suicide prevention line.

Member of the Public - Fiodhna O'Grady

You're not calling, you know, a service that can help you to die.

Member of the Public - Fiodhna O'Grady

You're calling a service to prevent suicide.

Member of the Public - Fiodhna O'Grady

And so we need...

Member of the Public - Fiodhna O'Grady

We need a multiplicity of approaches, and I think for our veterans especially, because they're so high risk, it's an extraordinary to know that the White Star family even exists.

Member of the Public - Fiodhna O'Grady

I will say that I was ignorant and did not know, and I'm very pleased to learn that, and also from Dr.

Member of the Public - Fiodhna O'Grady

Nichols to learn the many.

Member of the Public - Fiodhna O'Grady

Nuanced ways of looking at our veterans and being of assistance to them.

Member of the Public - Fiodhna O'Grady

Thank you.