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Public Testimony

Ms. Hines says public housing is full of mold, asbestos, and lead and has failed residents

New York City Council · Sep 22, 2026 · starts 2:50:41 · 3 min 53 sec

Ms. Hines says she is an elder and Brooklyn resident who believes government has failed residents' education, homes, and businesses. She says public housing is full of mold, asbestos, and lead, and that NYCHA's interiors are unhealthy and making children sick.

Member of the Public - Hines

I'm Hines, and I'm an elder, as most of us elders sitting here.

Member of the Public - Hines

You don't have your youth.

Member of the Public - Hines

But we know.

Member of the Public - Hines

We know the state.

Member of the Public - Hines

We know the country.

Member of the Public - Hines

And we know that our leaders...

Member of the Public - Hines

Have failed our education, our homes, and they don't allow us businesses.

Member of the Public - Hines

They even fail our temples.

Member of the Public - Hines

I sit in a temple where I live in Brooklyn.

Member of the Public - Hines

And while I'm sitting in the temple and enjoying just my peace of mind, I'm leaving my home.

Member of the Public - Hines

I have peace of mind in the home because I'm by myself.

Member of the Public - Hines

But...

Member of the Public - Hines

Since retiring, I thought I was happy while I was working and taking care of my children and so forth.

Member of the Public - Hines

But as I've been by myself, I find that this country is failing.

Member of the Public - Hines

Failing the people who have built this country, who have served this country, and who have

Member of the Public - Hines

It's the USA.

Member of the Public - Hines

It's our country.

Member of the Public - Hines

And we are belittled with our education.

Member of the Public - Hines

We'll belittle with our homes.

Member of the Public - Hines

We'll belittle with businesses.

Member of the Public - Hines

When I say belittle, you deny.

Member of the Public - Hines

This country denies our homes, our business, our education.

Member of the Public - Hines

For centuries, centuries, centuries of abuse.

Member of the Public - Hines

And I'm about out.

Member of the Public - Hines

You know, when I say out, I'm the eldest of my peoples, one of the elders, much older than you two that are sitting at the table and the one who left.

Member of the Public - Hines

And it has not paced university.

Member of the Public - Hines

I worked in this community.

Chris Banks

You have 30 seconds to wrap up.

Member of the Public - Hines

I have ran around this neighborhood or the city of New York.

Member of the Public - Hines

And I tell you, it's sad.

Member of the Public - Hines

We put you at, we put.

Member of the Public - Hines

We put you in office and we just don't get, we are under the foot.

Member of the Public - Hines

We're told that we can't have our homes, we can't have our businesses, we can't have our temples.

Member of the Public - Hines

We can't have our education.

Chris Banks

Do you have anything to say on topic about work orders and public housing?

Member of the Public - Hines

Public housing has definitely failed.

Member of the Public - Hines

They told you about public housing.

Member of the Public - Hines

There's nothing more to say about public housing.

Member of the Public - Hines

Public housing, they gave you everything that we don't have any service.

Member of the Public - Hines

Public housing is full of mold, asbestos, and lead.

Member of the Public - Hines

And they took away whatever.

Member of the Public - Hines

The best of what we had in New York City housing no longer exists.

Member of the Public - Hines

I'm talking about material.

Member of the Public - Hines

For doors, we used to have wood.

Member of the Public - Hines

We now have paper doors.

Member of the Public - Hines

We still have mold.

Member of the Public - Hines

We're full of lead.

Member of the Public - Hines

We're full of asbestos.

Member of the Public - Hines

And we're full of mold.

Member of the Public - Hines

The only thing you can do with nature is take it down.

Chris Banks

Thank you.

Chris Banks

Thank you for your testimony.

Member of the Public - Hines

The brick is good.

Member of the Public - Hines

The brick is good because they repaired that and much of nature.

Member of the Public - Hines

But the inside is not healthy.

Member of the Public - Hines

It made us sick.

Member of the Public - Hines

It made the children sick.

Chris Banks

Thank you for your testimony, ma'am.