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Diamond criticizes administration's transitory-versus-substantive testimony

New York City Council · Sep 22, 2026 · starts 2:44:43 · 59 sec

Diamond calls the administration's testimony torturous and its circular logic on transitory versus substantive bewildering, says government business cannot be done on non-approved channels like Signal, questions who approved the app download, and supports Council Member Morano's suggestion of subpoenas.

Member of the Public - Charles Diamond

Turning quickly to the process angle, I found the testimony of the administration here before, I mean, torturous to an extreme.

Member of the Public - Charles Diamond

That circular logic behind transitory and substantive, I think was, again, any of us who have worked in the city were bewildered.

Member of the Public - Charles Diamond

What are you telling me?

Member of the Public - Charles Diamond

This is the opposite of everything I've heard.

Member of the Public - Charles Diamond

Let's be very clear.

Member of the Public - Charles Diamond

We all know that you can't do government business on non-approved channels.

Member of the Public - Charles Diamond

Signal was not approved.

Member of the Public - Charles Diamond

I'd like to give another example.

Member of the Public - Charles Diamond

You can't normally download apps on your phone without IT approving it.

Member of the Public - Charles Diamond

Who approved this downloaded app?

Member of the Public - Charles Diamond

Or was it on a private phone?

Member of the Public - Charles Diamond

Was someone ordered to allow that app to be put on there?

Member of the Public - Charles Diamond

Councilmember Moreno spoke about subpoenas.

Member of the Public - Charles Diamond

I think it's extremely appropriate in this case because, unfortunately, mistakes happen.

Member of the Public - Charles Diamond

New people in the city government might not fully get a policy.

Member of the Public - Charles Diamond

I get that.

Member of the Public - Charles Diamond

But when you go that defensive,

Member of the Public - Charles Diamond

and you try and pretend that it was okay, it only raises more and more questions.

Member of the Public - Charles Diamond

I'll leave it at that.

Member of the Public - Charles Diamond

Thank you.

Gale A. Brewer

Thank you.

Gale A. Brewer

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