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Garner says payments are a better barometer than contract awards

New York City Council · Sep 23, 2026 · starts 0:41:44 · 1 min 21 sec

Garner explains that a $10 million contract awarded five years ago may only be 50% actualized, so payments better measure success. Restler notes payments are often less than awards and asks how this affects vendors working at risk.

Michael J. Garner

The cadence of the reporting is as to white flint and kid almost in real time.

Michael J. Garner

And this is going to be transformational because the city has historically evaluated their MWBE successes based upon contract awards.

Michael J. Garner

The more important metric here is payments.

Lincoln Restler

Right.

Lincoln Restler

But payments are less than awards, right, often?

Michael J. Garner

Well, once contract matures, the payments will, at some given point in time, they will catch up.

Lincoln Restler

Hopefully.

Michael J. Garner

Right, yes.

Michael J. Garner

And so, for example, the estate has utilized this system for decades.

Michael J. Garner

They capture awards, but they capture, more importantly, the payments on those awards.

Michael J. Garner

So, for example.

Michael J. Garner

If we report a $10 million contract that was awarded five years ago, not to exceed $10 million,

Michael J. Garner

at the duration of that contract, after five years, if only...

Michael J. Garner

50% of that contract has been actualized, you've overstated the success.

Michael J. Garner

So converting from contract awards now to payments is a better barometer of success.