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Public Testimony

Alicia Nascimento testifies on Champerty loophole

New York City Council · Sep 28, 2026 · starts 4:20:35 · 2 min 35 sec

Alicia Nascimento, political director at New York Communities for Change, testifies in support of Resolution 27. She explains the history of the Champerty loophole and how it allows vulture funds to profit from debt-distressed countries.

Member of the Public - Alicia Nascimento

Good afternoon and thank you for the opportunity to testify.

Member of the Public - Alicia Nascimento

I'd like to thank the broader committee and especially to Councilmember Alexa Aviles for introducing these historic resolutions.

Member of the Public - Alicia Nascimento

My name is Alicia Nascimento.

Member of the Public - Alicia Nascimento

I am the political director at New York Communities for Change.

Member of the Public - Alicia Nascimento

In 2006, when Puerto Rico's debt crisis was unraveling, our Puerto Rican members watched their homeland being squeezed by a crisis that had nothing to do with their creation.

Member of the Public - Alicia Nascimento

Schools and hospitals were closing, people were losing their pensions, and they asked us, what can we do from New York?

Member of the Public - Alicia Nascimento

At the time, we didn't think we could do much, but it turns out that as the financial capital of the world, there is a lot that we can do, and that is within our power.

Member of the Public - Alicia Nascimento

Puerto Rico may be nearly 2,000 miles away, but the laws governing its debt can be written right here because about half of the world's sovereign debt is actually governed by New York state law.

Member of the Public - Alicia Nascimento

Champerty is an old English law that has been in the books in New York since the early 1800s.

Member of the Public - Alicia Nascimento

It was actually meant to stop people from buying someone else's debt just to sue them.

Member of the Public - Alicia Nascimento

But in 2004, a loophole was created by a billionaire hedge fund investor named Paul Singer, who, as Gabe himself has described, has pillaged Argentina,

Member of the Public - Alicia Nascimento

took Argentina on a 15-year litigation battle using our courts to ultimately...

Member of the Public - Alicia Nascimento

extract about $2 billion while Argentinians themselves were undergoing a severe economic crisis.

Member of the Public - Alicia Nascimento

This is what happens when Wall Street gets to write the rules.

Member of the Public - Alicia Nascimento

Vulture funds get richer and ordinary people pay the price.

Member of the Public - Alicia Nascimento

It's the same things that we've been seeing happening in Puerto Rico.

Member of the Public - Alicia Nascimento

And that's exactly why we're fighting to close the Champerty loophole and why we're supportive of all the resolutions, but particularly Resolution 27.

Member of the Public - Alicia Nascimento

We're not saying that investors can't invest.

Member of the Public - Alicia Nascimento

We understand that.

Member of the Public - Alicia Nascimento

But we're saying that you shouldn't be able to buy a country's debt for pennies on the dollars, refuse to negotiate, and then use our courts to demand the full amount at the expense of our people.

Member of the Public - Alicia Nascimento

This is why NYCC and the Debt Justice Alliance alongside our partners, Cuff, Strong Economy for All, Center for Popular Democracy, urged to pass Resolution 27 and to stand with us in Albany.

Member of the Public - Alicia Nascimento

And I just wanted to close with saying that our court should be a place for justice.

Member of the Public - Alicia Nascimento

It's not a place where vulture funds can extract as much money as possible from countries and hold them hostage, which is what we've been doing.

Member of the Public - Alicia Nascimento

So let's get this done.

Member of the Public - Alicia Nascimento

Thank you all.