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Public Testimony

Chair moves to Puerto Rico Zoom panel; Julio Lopez Varona testifies

New York City Council · Sep 28, 2026 · starts 3:22:37 · 5 min 29 sec

Chair Williams thanks the NYPL panel and moves to the final Zoom panel from Puerto Rico. Julio Lopez Varona, from the Commission for the Audit of Public Credit, testifies in support of Resolutions 28 and 27, describing the human consequences of austerity.

Nantasha M. Williams

Thank you all so much for coming.

Nantasha M. Williams

And as I said to the other panel, please engage with the council.

Nantasha M. Williams

We'd love to figure out ways to partner and be helpful.

Nantasha M. Williams

So feel free to reach out to us.

Member of the Public - Regina Bain

Thank you.

Nantasha M. Williams

You're welcome.

Nantasha M. Williams

Okay, we are going to go to, is this the last panel of Zoom?

Nantasha M. Williams

Well, okay, yeah, so we're gonna go to the last panel on Zoom in Puerto Rico, and with that, we'll have Julio, Christian, and Hernales.

Nantasha M. Williams

And Emma.

Nantasha M. Williams

Emma.

Nantasha M. Williams

Emma?

Nantasha M. Williams

Emma.

Nantasha M. Williams

Please pardon my very American accent.

Nantasha M. Williams

Sorry.

Nantasha M. Williams

I want to say it correctly.

Member of the Public - Regina Bain

Should I start?

Member of the Public

All you.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

Thank you.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

Well, good morning, members of the New York City Council.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

Good afternoon, I should say.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

My name is Julio Lopez Barona.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

I'm from Puerto Rico and have lived through the consequences of austerity measures imposed under the Fiscal Oversight and Management Board and the greed and exploitation of bullish reports.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

Today I'm testifying on behalf of the Commission para Ciudadana para la Auditoría Integral del Crédito Público in support of Resolution

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

No.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

28, calling on Congress to establish a date for ending the board, and Resolution No.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

22, supporting New York's legislation to curb predatory debt practices.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

We are a nonprofit citizen-led organization that conducts independent research on Puerto Rico's public debt and advocates for democratic, rights-based fiscal policy.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

And we have been at the front lines with people like Christian and Christina and others finding the board for more than 10 years.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

It's been 10 years after Promesa was created and the Oversight Board,

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and Puerto Rico continues to face austerity measures while all elected officials retain extraordinary control over our budgets and our fiscal policy.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

During this period, hundreds of public schools have closed, the University of Puerto Rico has faced these cuts, as we heard before, and the island electrical system has been privatized amid

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

resistance, service failures, and blackouts.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

This is not a 10-year thing.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

Last Thursday, 400,000 people were without power for about five hours.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

So this is happening almost every day.

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Meanwhile, hedge funds and other investors have published Puerto Rico's debt at steep discounts, cents on the dollar, have continued pursuing aggressive repayment through the courts.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

PREPA, for example, bondholders still are seeking additional payments that could translate into higher electrical bills for people like me, for families, for my mom, and for everybody that lives here, with a power grid that continues to fail.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

So the fact that we're paying more doesn't mean that we're getting better service.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

Puerto Rico's experience is not unique.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

In cases involving Puerto Rico, Argentina, and Greece, some creditors have relied on litigation to extend the capacity they have to litigate and to make more money.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

This practice creates incentives that allow for these external players to come in to make more money and to further suffer in Puerto Rico.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

And this is where New York comes to play.

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Champerty and related practices can create the incentives that make it even worse for Puerto Rico.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

And Resolution No.

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27 can help address these practices by preventing some really basic financial practices from happening.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

I want to just make sure that people understand the real human consequences.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

Puerto Rico has lost 15% of its population over the last 10 years.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

Puerto Rico's poverty is at 45% over the poverty line.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

So we're talking about how people are living in Puerto Rico.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

Many people are suffering.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

And also it's important that you understand this is not only a Puerto Rico issue.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

Puerto Rico has 700,000 people that call themselves Puerto Rican living in New York.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

And those families are connected to what's happening in Puerto Rico.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

Those are the people that are moving money to Puerto Rico.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

And those are the people that got like gave homes to Puerto Ricans when Puerto Rico had Hurricane Maria.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

But also you should remember that it's not only Puerto Ricans, it's the rest of the world living in Puerto Rico and in many cases migrating to New York because they cannot sustain

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

the impacts that these headphones have had on the island.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

With all of that said, we urge the council to pass those resolutions.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

Puerto Rico should be determined by democratic governance.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

We might have a crappy governor, but we still want to make sure that we have a governor that we can hold accountable.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

And financial practices should not allow investors to profit at the expense of community.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

People should always come before profits.

Member of the Public - Julio Lopez Varona

Thank you for your consideration.