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Chair Joseph asks about sharing best practices; Stephen Ferst discusses field history

New York City Council · Sep 29, 2026 · starts 0:46:42 · 1 min 41 sec

Chair Joseph asks whether campuses share best practices for recruiting underrepresented students. Ferst says education abroad liaisons meet monthly, then notes that study abroad historically served mostly white, upper-middle-income women and that moving the needle on diversity remains difficult nationally.

Rita C. Joseph

Copying the model, are you talking to each other to see what are some of the best practices that maybe we can transfer to other campuses for it to work?

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

We do.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

We have a monthly liaison meeting of folks who work in education abroad, study abroad, and we do try to bring those best practices across campus to campus.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

I will say this is my 37th year in this field.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

I have been working on, the field has been working on underrepresented students.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

For that entirety of the time, right?

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

When study abroad started in 1966, 1967, those first students went abroad on those.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

They were young women.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

They were studying languages.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

They took a boat to France.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

They spent a year.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

They came home.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

Until the 1980s, when we really massified or diversified studying abroad, that's who went abroad.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

And it remains still mostly women studying abroad, mostly white women who are upper middle income and above.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

These barriers exist.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

They've been extremely hard.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

to move the needle on students of color, on students of limited means.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

There are a number of programs out there, 100,000 Strong in the Americas is a grant program, the Gilman program, and several others that I know all of us at CUNY have worked very hard to achieve those grants to overcome these things.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

I think CUNY does better.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

The national, honestly, in overcoming these barriers for first underrepresented students, but this is a needle that is extremely hard to move nationally.

Rita C. Joseph

Thank you.