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Chair Abreu asks about JOCO sidewalk detection technology and support for legislation

New York City Council · Sep 30, 2026 · starts 3:28:19 · 2 min 10 sec

Abreu mentions JOCO's sidewalk detection technology and asks if DOT would support legislation if the technology works, and DOT says they are meeting with JOCO and are open to it.

Shaun Abreu

Thank you, Councilmember.

Shaun Abreu

And since we're on the topic, and I'd rather not bring it up later, I'll just ask now.

Shaun Abreu

We have seen...

Shaun Abreu

Joko, a ride share system, they're going to be using this for their entire fleet.

Shaun Abreu

And we just, you know, we did a demonstration with the speaker.

Shaun Abreu

You know, we were very, very impressed by the technology.

Shaun Abreu

Within a few seconds, the bikes slow down.

Shaun Abreu

It's not an immediate shutoff, so it's not dangerous.

Shaun Abreu

It is a slowdown after two seconds it gets on the sidewalk to the point where it slows down and becomes a bike.

Shaun Abreu

It never just stops.

Shaun Abreu

And so if you are traveling at a normal bike speed, this should never be a situation where it's actually dangerous.

Unidentified speaker

Understood, Chair.

Unidentified speaker

Maddie reminded me, we are actually meeting with JOCO very soon, so we're looking forward to learning more.

Unidentified speaker

You know, again, we'll see, right, there's different perspectives, and then there's sort of looking at something at a small scale and then scaling it up.

Unidentified speaker

So we're certainly open to these kinds of ideas.

Shaun Abreu

And if the technology, if you're...

Shaun Abreu

Your engagement with Joko and your visit of technology is impressive.

Shaun Abreu

I mean, we certainly like to have follow-up conversations on that because we, to your point, I do believe that technology can get there and should be getting there.

Shaun Abreu

But once big operators like Joko, they have 5,000 fleet, obviously not as big as some other actors, but if they're able to do that,

Shaun Abreu

it's important that we also regulate the ride share ecosystem as a whole because you don't want to create an incentive for people to not do Joko because it slows them down on the sidewalk.

Shaun Abreu

It would have to be evenly applied.

Shaun Abreu

So assuming the technology is there, would you be in support of this legislation?

Unidentified speaker

Yeah, that's a great point about the overall market.

Unidentified speaker

You know, again, we're very supportive of the intent and would be eager to sit down and look at it with you and work through some of these questions.

Shaun Abreu

If the technology is there, I think we should be requiring bikes to slow down on sidewalks as part of ride share systems.

Shaun Abreu

That's my position.