Menin asks companies about legal liability for AI harms
Menin asks whether each company would bear legal responsibility if a frontier model goes rogue and causes harm. Dwyer gives an unclear response; Graham says he's a technical researcher and the question transcends labs; Cahill says he's not in legal; Friend clearly says existing legal frameworks apply to AI.
So if one of your frontier AI models goes rogue and causes serious financial harm, compromises sensitive data, causes physical injury, or contributes to a death or deaths,
do you each believe your company bears legal responsibility?
I'll start with you, Ms.
Dwyer.
I believe that OpenAI takes its responsibility for safety very seriously, and we are responsible for developing and evaluating our systems to ensure that they are safe.
So is that a yes or that is a no?
Could you be more clear, please?
We believe that we are responsible for ensuring that our systems are developed safely, and that includes training them to be safe, evaluating them to be safe, and then continuing to monitor our safeguards after deployment.
Okay, I'm going to take that as a no, because that is not really clear that you would bear legal responsibility.
I'm going to go now to Mr.
Graham.
Yeah, as a technical safety research lead, I think there are others which will have more nuanced perspectives on that issue than I.
What I do know is, first, this is an issue where every lab, we think, should be committed to a multi-layered safety stack to make sure that doesn't happen in the first place.
These issues don't come about in the first place.
The second, this is candidly a big and complex questions that also transcends the labs themselves.
There's a question about the role of government and others, which we've very long welcomed here.
So could we get a yes or no on that question?
I wish it were that simple and I wish I, you know, it's a technical researcher had more nuance on that exact one.
It is one that I think needs to be raised and addressed and transcends the labs and the companies themselves.
I'm going to go to Mr.
Cahill.
Apologies again, the mute button.
I'm sorry.
No worries.
We will get it right.
Thank you very much for the question.
I'm not in Meta's legal department, so I don't want to speculate or be imprecise in relation to the legal viability question.
What I can say, though, is that we are absolutely committed to developing our AI safely, pursuing to our framework, which I mentioned previously.
This encompasses the training, evaluation, and release of models across development, deployment, and use.
I miss friend.
Madam Speaker, at Google, we believe that existing legal frameworks do apply to AI.
As I said in my opening statement, we've long said if it's illegal without AI, it's still illegal with AI.
And in New York State, Frontier AI in particular is regulated under the RAISE Act.
Thank you.
I mean, your answer is far clearer than the others, so we appreciate the clarity on that, honestly.