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Menin asks companies about legal liability for AI harms

New York City Council · Oct 5, 2026 · starts 1:43:46 · 3 min 25 sec

Menin asks whether each company would bear legal responsibility if a frontier model goes rogue and causes harm. Dwyer gives an unclear response; Graham says he's a technical researcher and the question transcends labs; Cahill says he's not in legal; Friend clearly says existing legal frameworks apply to AI.

Julie Menin

So if one of your frontier AI models goes rogue and causes serious financial harm, compromises sensitive data, causes physical injury, or contributes to a death or deaths,

Julie Menin

do you each believe your company bears legal responsibility?

Julie Menin

I'll start with you, Ms.

Julie Menin

Dwyer.

Member of the Public - Morgan Dwyer

I believe that OpenAI takes its responsibility for safety very seriously, and we are responsible for developing and evaluating our systems to ensure that they are safe.

Julie Menin

So is that a yes or that is a no?

Julie Menin

Could you be more clear, please?

Member of the Public - Morgan Dwyer

We believe that we are responsible for ensuring that our systems are developed safely, and that includes training them to be safe, evaluating them to be safe, and then continuing to monitor our safeguards after deployment.

Julie Menin

Okay, I'm going to take that as a no, because that is not really clear that you would bear legal responsibility.

Julie Menin

I'm going to go now to Mr.

Julie Menin

Graham.

Member of the Public - Logan Graham

Yeah, as a technical safety research lead, I think there are others which will have more nuanced perspectives on that issue than I.

Member of the Public - Logan Graham

What I do know is, first, this is an issue where every lab, we think, should be committed to a multi-layered safety stack to make sure that doesn't happen in the first place.

Member of the Public - Logan Graham

These issues don't come about in the first place.

Member of the Public - Logan Graham

The second, this is candidly a big and complex questions that also transcends the labs themselves.

Member of the Public - Logan Graham

There's a question about the role of government and others, which we've very long welcomed here.

Julie Menin

So could we get a yes or no on that question?

Member of the Public - Logan Graham

I wish it were that simple and I wish I, you know, it's a technical researcher had more nuance on that exact one.

Member of the Public - Logan Graham

It is one that I think needs to be raised and addressed and transcends the labs and the companies themselves.

Julie Menin

I'm going to go to Mr.

Julie Menin

Cahill.

Member of the Public - Shane Cahill

Apologies again, the mute button.

Member of the Public - Shane Cahill

I'm sorry.

Member of the Public - Shane Cahill

No worries.

Member of the Public - Shane Cahill

We will get it right.

Member of the Public - Shane Cahill

Thank you very much for the question.

Member of the Public - Shane Cahill

I'm not in Meta's legal department, so I don't want to speculate or be imprecise in relation to the legal viability question.

Member of the Public - Shane Cahill

What I can say, though, is that we are absolutely committed to developing our AI safely, pursuing to our framework, which I mentioned previously.

Member of the Public - Shane Cahill

This encompasses the training, evaluation, and release of models across development, deployment, and use.

Julie Menin

I miss friend.

Member of the Public - Alice Friend

Madam Speaker, at Google, we believe that existing legal frameworks do apply to AI.

Member of the Public - Alice Friend

As I said in my opening statement, we've long said if it's illegal without AI, it's still illegal with AI.

Member of the Public - Alice Friend

And in New York State, Frontier AI in particular is regulated under the RAISE Act.

Julie Menin

Thank you.

Julie Menin

I mean, your answer is far clearer than the others, so we appreciate the clarity on that, honestly.