Osse asks companies to provide free compute to NYC for cyber defense
Councilmember Chi Osse asks whether companies will commit free compute to New York City and municipal governments for vulnerability research. Graham cites existing cyber defense access; Dwyer cites the $1 billion Daybreak initiative; Cahill offers to follow up; Friend will check with cloud specialists.
Thank you, Chair.
Mr.
Graham, you've indicated that you run red teaming at Anthropic.
Will your company commit a certain amount of compute for free to New York City and other municipal governments to research vulnerabilities and build defenses?
And if yes, how much compute indefinitely?
And I'll ask the same question for the three other companies.
I know that Meta indicated that that is something that they would be interested in doing.
So for Meta, how much compute indefinitely?
Well, I'm not in a position to commit anything today.
I'm heartened by this question.
We spend a lot of our resources internally on safety, alignment, and defensive practices.
But moreover, this year we've taken very large steps to provide external access and advanced access of models to cyber defenders for this reason, including at the city and state level in New York.
I'm personally looking to try to further these efforts at Anthropic.
It's a question of many ways we could support this.
We support free cloud credits at the New York City level with Cyber Command, for example, a number of state and local leaders.
But it goes much further than that.
It goes to all pieces of critical infrastructure, releasing research, safety reports, technical know-how.
It's a very, very large challenge and one very close to my heart, and I'm glad you asked.
Dwyer, friend, you know, I think we have the order already established here.
Is the company's position open to providing free compute to New York City?
I'll take that next.
Thank you for the question.
I'm happy to share that OpenAI has already committed to donating $1 billion towards strengthening cyber defense through our Daybreak for Defenders initiative.
That covers things like providing access to our most advanced AI models for use in cyber defense.
It also includes technical assistance and training.
And we're already working with the Port Authority as well as with New York State.
Cahill.
Yep.
Thank you so much, Council Member.
It's a great question.
In relation to specifically your question on compute, let me come back to you on that.
I want to make sure that I'm providing you with the right information.
So I'll talk to the right people and come back to you on that.
But I just wanted to note in relation to red teaming, we work with external evaluators.
And to note that we signed the commitment, the accord to partner with independent external evaluators and assessors.
This is also part of our scaling framework.
I just wanted to mention as well the absolutely important and critical role of open weight models in relation to cybersecurity and hardening cybersecurity in particular.
We have our Muse Glimmer model, which is open weights.
And we really believe that in addition to furthering innovation and research, open weight models have a really significant role to play in furthering the state of art in terms of hardening cybersecurity.
And sir, I'm going to have to reach out to our cloud business specialists and get back to you on that.
I don't work on technical infrastructure, and so I really can't comment or commit to compute at this time, but I can pledge to get back to you on that.
Okay, I would just say that if...
It is in the interest of these companies to provide any type of safety protocols for municipalities like New York or just for any governments across the nation, nonetheless the globe.
I think this would be a great tool for us to use in order to keep our civilians safe.
So I know that some folks said that they would get back to me.
I would love to hear, this council would love to hear back from all of your companies on this possibility.