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Public Testimony

Stop the AI Race's Matthew Tromp calls AI development a crime

New York City Council · Oct 5, 2026 · starts 9:12:48 · 2 min 15 sec

Matthew Tromp, leader of Stop the AI Race NYC, says former Anthropic friends had no answer for how to keep superhuman AI under control. He calls AI companies' plans to ask AI to solve the problem 'madness' and accuses them of reckless endangerment under New York State law.

Member of the Public - Matthew Tromp

Good evening, counselors.

Member of the Public - Matthew Tromp

My name is Matthew Tromp.

Member of the Public - Matthew Tromp

I'm a computer scientist and leader of the New York City chapter of Stop the AI Race.

Member of the Public - Matthew Tromp

Our goal is to prevent the development of superhuman AI systems.

Member of the Public - Matthew Tromp

Until recently, I was friends with a number of employees at Anthropic.

Member of the Public - Matthew Tromp

I knew the technology they were building was dangerous, that could kill everyone on Earth.

Member of the Public - Matthew Tromp

But I trusted my friends.

Member of the Public - Matthew Tromp

I believed they had things handled.

Member of the Public - Matthew Tromp

Then I asked them how they planned to keep the superhuman AI systems they are planning to build under control to make them do what we want, to ensure they are safe.

Member of the Public - Matthew Tromp

They had no answer.

Member of the Public - Matthew Tromp

Everyone I spoke to believed, as I do, that superhuman AI would radically transform our lives, but all of them assumed that this transformation would be positive, with no thought given to why that would happen.

Member of the Public - Matthew Tromp

Today we heard from the representatives of the leading AI companies, despite being confronted about it multiple times by the council, for which I am grateful.

Member of the Public - Matthew Tromp

At no point did any of them explain concretely how they will make these increasingly powerful AI systems safe.

Member of the Public - Matthew Tromp

That is because they do not know how to do so.

Member of the Public - Matthew Tromp

Nobody knows how to do it.

Member of the Public - Matthew Tromp

Both OpenAI and Anthropic

Member of the Public - Matthew Tromp

admit this.

Member of the Public - Matthew Tromp

They do not know how to make superhuman AI systems safe, and yet they are building them anyway.

Member of the Public - Matthew Tromp

Their official plan is to ask AI to solve the problem for them.

Member of the Public - Matthew Tromp

This is madness.

Member of the Public - Matthew Tromp

We are in an emergency.

Member of the Public - Matthew Tromp

Your life is in danger.

Member of the Public - Matthew Tromp

Your children are in danger.

Member of the Public - Matthew Tromp

If we do not halt the development of these systems soon, possibly on the order of months, you will die.

Member of the Public - Matthew Tromp

Your loved ones will die.

Member of the Public - Matthew Tromp

The companies building these systems themselves admit that their project carries a significant risk of killing everyone on Earth, and yet they are building it anyway.

Member of the Public - Matthew Tromp

If nothing else, everyone working on this technology has admitted to 10 million counts of reckless endangerment in the first degree, a crime under New York state law for risking the lives of every citizen of this city.

Member of the Public - Matthew Tromp

It is not a defense to this charge to claim that someone else would endanger those lives if you did not.

Member of the Public - Matthew Tromp

It is not a defense to claim that the benefits will outweigh the risk.

Member of the Public - Matthew Tromp

It is a crime to endanger the lives of others like this without their consent.

Member of the Public - Matthew Tromp

I beg the council to enforce the law.

Member of the Public - Matthew Tromp

Thank you.

Council Staff

Thank you so much.

Council Staff

You may continue.

Council Staff

Can you pass him the microphone, please?

Council Staff

Absolutely.

Council Staff

Thank you.