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Turner urges extending deceptive-statement bill to executive claims

New York City Council · Oct 5, 2026 · starts 0:31:50 · 1 min 26 sec

Turner supports Councilmember Wilson's Intro 2603 but notes it only covers advertisements. He urges extending it to public statements by AI company executives about safety commitments, referencing the book 'The Infinity Machine' on DeepMind's internal governance fight.

Member of the Public - Alex Turner

Councilmember Wilson's bill, Introduction 2603, would bar materially false or misleading statements about an AI model's risks and the measures taken to manage them.

Member of the Public - Alex Turner

I think that's a good step, but it only covers advertisements.

Member of the Public - Alex Turner

The CEO telling the press or employees that nothing has changed about the company's safety commitments isn't an ad.

Member of the Public - Alex Turner

I encourage extending 2603 to public statements by AI companies and their executives about their safety commitments.

Member of the Public - Alex Turner

This book is called The Infinity Machine.

Member of the Public - Alex Turner

It reveals that Demis once fought within Google for independent governance of AGI, stating that the technology is too important to be controlled by corporate interests and profit motives.

Member of the Public - Alex Turner

After fighting for years with Google CEO Sundar Pichai, Demas accepted defeat.

Member of the Public - Alex Turner

He now apparently has had a change of heart, claiming that actually trustless independent governance is unwise and a seat at the table of Google executives is better.

Member of the Public - Alex Turner

While Demis was seated at this table, Google signed a deal that its former principles would have prohibited.

Member of the Public - Alex Turner

I felt ashamed of Dennis and of working at Google.

Member of the Public - Alex Turner

Dennis bet on trust and the seat at the table instead of binding oversight, and that bet crumbled on contact with reality.

Member of the Public - Alex Turner

Now he's proposing that the whole industry govern itself through a voluntary industry-funded body.

Member of the Public - Alex Turner

That bet is waiting to crumble once again.