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Brewer asks panel how to bring pedicab drivers into licensing

New York City Council · Oct 7, 2026 · starts 1:56:23 · 2 min 31 sec

Brewer asks the panel for specific steps to license more pedicab drivers. Harris says criminal court summonses are the wrong tool because discovery and jail exposure lead to dismissals; civil summonses with seizure authority would create accountability and bring compliance.

Harvey D. Epstein

Thank you, and I want to acknowledge I've been joined by Councilmember Krishnan, and Councilmember Brewer, I'll let you go first this time.

Gale A. Brewer

My question is, given the fact that you know better than anybody else, perhaps, what the challenges are of the...

Gale A. Brewer

Possibilities for the future with the Taxi Limousine Commission if we're able to pull that off.

Gale A. Brewer

How specifically would you suggest we get some of these individuals licensed?

Gale A. Brewer

In other words, you have the bills in front of you, but you know more than I think most of us about what you might be more specific about how to make the industry better in the hopes, too, that TLC takes over.

Gale A. Brewer

But that's not the– there's many steps that would have to be included.

Gale A. Brewer

I was wondering if you could suggest some of them.

Member of the Public - Tom Harris

Sure.

Member of the Public - Tom Harris

So the first thing is the New York City Police Department does a great job.

Member of the Public - Tom Harris

They're utility players, and they're expected to enforce all sorts of laws.

Member of the Public - Tom Harris

Criminal court summons is their forte.

Member of the Public - Tom Harris

That's not the place where these summonses should be heard.

Member of the Public - Tom Harris

First off, when you issue a criminal court summons, discovery kicks in, there's jail time applied.

Member of the Public - Tom Harris

We shouldn't be sending people to jail for doing their work.

Member of the Public - Tom Harris

So the problem is that these summonses are dismissed because the police cannot comply with the discovery components.

Member of the Public - Tom Harris

For an offense that requires jail time.

Member of the Public - Tom Harris

So anything that they do for unlicensed drivers is ineffective because like Kenny and McCann said, a couple of days later they get back their pedicab.

Member of the Public - Tom Harris

If this was regulated civilly, and whoever regulates it civilly, it could be a combination, but if the police department or the TLC or any other agency issued a civil summons,

Member of the Public - Tom Harris

that was and had accountability built into it.

Member of the Public - Tom Harris

They could seize the pedicab for an unlicensed operator.

Member of the Public - Tom Harris

They would be found guilty because the discovery or the standard of proof is different than in the criminal court.

Member of the Public - Tom Harris

And you would be able to seize that summons.

Member of the Public - Tom Harris

So in my opinion,

Member of the Public - Tom Harris

That would bring compliance in line because you have accountability.

Member of the Public - Tom Harris

Right now, there's zero accountability for any of the summonses issued, and that's why the enforcement to date has been ineffective.