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Menin asks Kim about whistleblower rewards and NDAs

New York City Council · Oct 16, 2026 · starts 1:19:14 · 1 min 57 sec

Menin explains the Council's whistleblower bill would provide financial rewards from penalties and asks Kim whether SpaceX AI used NDAs or confidentiality policies that restricted reporting safety concerns; Kim says all employees signed NDAs and that restriction was strongly implied.

Carmen N. De La Rosa

Thank you both for your testimony.

Julie Menin

testimony today.

Julie Menin

I do have a number of questions.

Julie Menin

So Mr.

Julie Menin

Kim, you mentioned that one of the things that you really want to see is strong whistleblower protection.

Julie Menin

So our bill, for example, has a financial reward for whistleblowers and gives the whistleblower a significant

Julie Menin

portion of the financial penalties which can result in the multi-millions of dollars since it is

Julie Menin

a per agent per instance penalty so if there are thousands of rogue agents or the product is being sold and marketed in New York to

Julie Menin

tens of thousands of people, obviously these penalties will add up.

Julie Menin

So I appreciate your comments on that.

Julie Menin

Also, the idea of the protection for the whistleblowers, this is exactly why at our hearing last week, when we had Alex Turner here, we issued a friendly subpoena

Julie Menin

so that he could freely testify.

Julie Menin

So to that end, when you were employed by Space XAI, was there any nondisclosure or confidentiality policies that could be interpreted as restricting employees from reporting safety concerns?

Member of the Public - Devin Kim

I'm not a lawyer, but yes, all employees were required to sign an NDA on joining the company.

Julie Menin

And were you ever instructed that if you were to speak out or raise certain safety concerns, that would be something that would violate the NDA?

Member of the Public - Devin Kim

Not explicitly, but I believe that was strongly implied in the way that the company was run.