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Steve Kramer warns AI-generated impersonation is already present

New York City Council · Oct 16, 2026 · starts 1:46:18 · 2 min 8 sec

Steve Kramer of Get Out the Vote says he sent an automated call mimicking the president's voice three years ago as a warning shot, argues the harms now seen were preventable, and urges the Council to think ahead because AI is already being governed by companies and bad actors may not be human.

Julie Menin

Thank you so much.

Member of the Public - Steve Kramer

Good afternoon or morning still.

Member of the Public - Steve Kramer

I'm Steve Kramer.

Member of the Public - Steve Kramer

I own the firm Get Out the Vote.

Member of the Public - Steve Kramer

I handle 59 members of Congress.

Member of the Public - Steve Kramer

I handle eight governors, including our current governor.

Member of the Public - Steve Kramer

Three years ago, I sent out an automated call that mimicked the voice of the president.

Member of the Public - Steve Kramer

It was a warning shot to the entire industry as well as to America about what's coming, about what was in the future at the time.

Member of the Public - Steve Kramer

Little did I know that it wasn't the future I was predicting, it was the present at the time of things that were already going on in the mainstream all over the place, whether it be

Member of the Public - Steve Kramer

against individuals and sexualizing them, whether it be against politicians, including our mayor and other people here in Manhattan that were affected.

Member of the Public - Steve Kramer

But I'm going to ask you all to think to the future now, because what we're seeing right now happened three years ago.

Member of the Public - Steve Kramer

What we're seeing right now was preventable, is preventable.

Member of the Public - Steve Kramer

But what we're seeing right now isn't AI.

Member of the Public - Steve Kramer

AI is...

Member of the Public - Steve Kramer

Many years ahead of us right now.

Member of the Public - Steve Kramer

And the fact that it's being governed by

Member of the Public - Steve Kramer

companies that aren't really governing it and by itself, meaning the artificial intelligence, means that the bad actors that I was accused of being aren't even human.

Member of the Public - Steve Kramer

And the safeguards that you put in here, not just today, but in the present,

Member of the Public - Steve Kramer

have to predict the future, and that's a very difficult job for anybody.

Member of the Public - Steve Kramer

I sympathize with both what's going on in the hearing today as well as the former hearing.

Member of the Public - Steve Kramer

I hope that you think ahead when making your next steps.

Member of the Public - Steve Kramer

Thank you.