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Public Testimony

Carr proposes mayor-directed EMS improvement task force

New York City Council · Oct 20, 2026 · starts 4:10:08 · 4 min 27 sec

James Carr, former executive director of NYC EMS, says response time is a symptom of broader problems the fire department cannot solve alone. He recommends a mayor-directed EMS improvement and modernization task force bringing together FDNY, OMB, OLR, labor, H&H, and hospitals to produce an implementation plan within 90 days.

Member of the Public - James Carr

Good afternoon.

Member of the Public - James Carr

My name is James Carr.

Member of the Public - James Carr

I served as executive director of New York City EMS from 1980 to 1988.

Member of the Public - James Carr

And this man's testimony was the best introduction I could possibly have.

Member of the Public - James Carr

I want to tell you that although there have been, I think, some changes in EMS in almost 40 years since I left,

Member of the Public - James Carr

Sadly, many of those challenges still remain today.

Member of the Public - James Carr

And I have to say that we talked about problems with response time, and response time is clearly a symptom, not an isolated issue.

Member of the Public - James Carr

It's a symptom of other problems.

Member of the Public - James Carr

The thing is...

Member of the Public - James Carr

The mayor has to take responsibility for this.

Member of the Public - James Carr

Happily, I no longer work for any mayors or anyone in the city government.

Member of the Public - James Carr

And I want to tell you that the things that have been talked about today, from the beginning of this meeting until today, until right now,

Member of the Public - James Carr

are things that some of which the fire department has control over, but many of those things the fire department does not have control over.

Member of the Public - James Carr

They need help, as this gentleman went through in a quite articulate manner.

Member of the Public - James Carr

The fire department can't address these challenges by itself.

Member of the Public - James Carr

I'm recommending a mayor-directed EMS improvement and modernization task force, bringing together the fire department, OMB,

Member of the Public - James Carr

OLR, EMS labor, health and hospitals in the broader hospital community to put together, to work together.

Member of the Public - James Carr

To focus not on finger-pointing, but to work together as a team to try to figure out the various issues and responses to the various issues that are necessary.

Member of the Public - James Carr

It's very clear.

Member of the Public - James Carr

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to recognize that they need competitive pay.

Member of the Public - James Carr

They need, dare I say, parity with the fire department.

Member of the Public - James Carr

In addition to that, if you want to deal with the increased call volume, you're going to need more staff than you currently have.

Member of the Public - James Carr

I'm talking about staff beyond the 45,000 that they currently have.

Member of the Public - James Carr

Yes, they're at 41,000 or whatever the number was, 4,150 or whatever.

Member of the Public - Jack Chapman

But the goal is 45.

Member of the Public - James Carr

But the goal is 45.

Member of the Public - James Carr

That's fine.

Member of the Public - James Carr

But there's been a 41% increase since the 20-teens.

Member of the Public - James Carr

Did their budget increase, their budget for staff, increase by 41%?

Member of the Public - James Carr

I'll tell you the answer is no.

Member of the Public - James Carr

So the mayor has to put this, has to be the convening person who puts this group together, people who work for him, who have to collaborate with one another to address these issues.

Member of the Public - James Carr

And I'm proposing that within 90 days, the task force submit an implementation plan that establishes clinically appropriate response time targets, identifies the staff,

Member of the Public - James Carr

ambulance capacity, and operational improvements needed to meet those targets, and specifying the resources required and the agencies responsible for implementation.

Member of the Public - James Carr

The process could be measured by the percentage of patients reached within those targets.

Member of the Public - James Carr

And what I'm saying is you want an ALS unit 95% of the time in six minutes, not an average.

Member of the Public - James Carr

Of 10 minutes.

Member of the Public - James Carr

Because the averages cover up an awful lot of outlier calls.

Member of the Public - James Carr

The outlier calls are the things that we're talking about here.

Member of the Public - James Carr

The difficulty is that it's not one or two outliers.

Member of the Public - James Carr

It's tons of outliers.

Member of the Public - James Carr

The system-wide problem requires a system-wide management response, and New York City, I believe, has the data, the expertise, and the technology to improve EMS performance.

Member of the Public - James Carr

What is needed is a coordinated mechanism to turn that knowledge into action.

Member of the Public - James Carr

The objective is faster, more reliable access to appropriate care and better patient outcomes.

Member of the Public - James Carr

Thank you.