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Public Testimony

Variale says EMS civil service promotions still not recognized

New York City Council · Oct 20, 2026 · starts 3:09:56 · 2 min 18 sec

Variale says EMS captain, deputy chief, and division chief became civil service titles in 2019, but the city and department refused to recognize them. He says the union won a lawsuit on eight counts, quoting the judge that the city violated EMS members' constitutional rights, yet no civil service exams have been scheduled.

Member of the Public - Vince Variale

I'd like to comment about what was last said.

Member of the Public - Vince Variale

Regarding opportunities in EMS.

Member of the Public - Vince Variale

There are other opportunities other than going to fire.

Member of the Public - Vince Variale

There are promotions to lieutenant, which is a civil service exam.

Member of the Public - Vince Variale

There is captain, deputy chief, and division chief.

Member of the Public - Vince Variale

For many years, those titles were not civil service titles.

Member of the Public - Vince Variale

They were a pick-em, basically.

Member of the Public - Vince Variale

I like you, so I'll make you this or whatever.

Member of the Public - Vince Variale

They did an interview, but basically if they liked the person, they would pick that person to get promoted.

Member of the Public - Vince Variale

That changed in 2019.

Member of the Public - Vince Variale

A law was passed and signed.

Member of the Public - Vince Variale

making EMS captain, deputy chief, and division chief all civil service titles.

Member of the Public - Vince Variale

The department and the city refused to recognize those, that exam, all those titles being civil service.

Member of the Public - Vince Variale

We filed a lawsuit, and just about a month ago, we won that lawsuit on eight counts, all in favor.

Member of the Public - Vince Variale

I'll quote the judge on this.

Member of the Public - Vince Variale

The city has violated the constitutional rights of the members in EMS, but not providing them with an equal and fair opportunity of merit and fitness to promote to these civil service titles.

Member of the Public - Vince Variale

And today we are still left with no civil service exam to these titles.

Member of the Public - Vince Variale

I had members, officers, lieutenants, who after hearing that this promotion is not going to be recognized still, are resigning.

Member of the Public - Vince Variale

They took a pension loan and they're moving out to another place to get a job in another city or state that would better recognize and treat EMS better than we do in New York City.

Member of the Public - Vince Variale

And again, we lose more experience.

Member of the Public - Vince Variale

That we paid for in training, that was gained through years of working with patients, and the damages continue.

Member of the Public - Vince Variale

These are, my point is that these are not just, these things, the issues are not just about money.

Member of the Public - Vince Variale

We need to make this a career, a place where people want to come and stay.

Member of the Public - Vince Variale

Encourage those to say, hey, I want to join the EMS ranks in New York City because there is a career there.

Member of the Public - Vince Variale

I can stay there for 20, 30 years.

Member of the Public - Vince Variale

30 years, earn a living, and have a ladder to go up on.

Member of the Public - Vince Variale

Without that, the problem will continue.

Member of the Public - Vince Variale

That's all.

Member of the Public - Vince Variale

Thank you.