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Public Testimony

Andrew Lynch of Hampton Jitney critiques 561-A's terminal-point definition

New York City Council · Oct 20, 2026 · starts 5:07:31 · 2 min 37 sec

Lynch says 561-A's definition of terminal point could make every scheduled bus stop a zero-idling zone. He warns that buses cannot comply because of air-operated systems and wheelchair lifts, and asks the Council to keep terminal point limited to depots and layovers.

Member of the Public - Andrew Lynch

Good afternoon, Chair Gennaro, members of the committee.

Member of the Public - Andrew Lynch

I'm Andrew Lynch, Executive Vice President of Hampton Jitney.

Member of the Public - Andrew Lynch

I fully support eliminating unnecessary idling, and I also fully support cleaner air for New York City.

Member of the Public - Andrew Lynch

I'm going to focus on one area of Intro 561A to help with future iterations.

Member of the Public - Andrew Lynch

Building on what the previous gentleman, the bus driver trainer, was saying, 561A defines terminal point as, quote, the plan stops, including the beginning or end of a bus route.

Member of the Public - Andrew Lynch

Read plainly, that is every scheduled bus stop in New York City.

Member of the Public - Andrew Lynch

And at a terminal point, idling is not limited to three minutes.

Member of the Public - Andrew Lynch

It is prohibited outright.

Member of the Public - Andrew Lynch

Anytime it is above 40 degrees, not one second.

Member of the Public - Andrew Lynch

Now, due to our air-operated systems, ambitions, equipment, wheelchair lifts, everything you've heard today, there is no way for our vehicles to comply with zero idling at a stop.

Member of the Public - Andrew Lynch

Three minutes is also an issue, but not my point right now.

Member of the Public - Andrew Lynch

And this is not what terminal point has previously meant.

Member of the Public - Andrew Lynch

The existing law describes a terminal point as whether or not enclosed, language that only makes sense if the drafters were talking about a structure.

Member of the Public - Andrew Lynch

The terminal point provision was written for a finite known set of places.

Member of the Public - Andrew Lynch

As written, 561A makes it thousands.

Member of the Public - Andrew Lynch

Think about what that does to enforcement.

Member of the Public - Andrew Lynch

Make every one of those stops a zero-second idling violation, attach a reward to reporting it, and you have not built the deterrent you want because there is no way for us to be compliant.

Member of the Public - Andrew Lynch

Instead, you've built another high-volume citizen complaint program that will exist.

Member of the Public - Andrew Lynch

exacerbate the criminal oath due process issues we already have.

Member of the Public - Andrew Lynch

So do not let Terminal Point become every bus stop in the city.

Member of the Public - Andrew Lynch

Keep it to what it has always meant, the terminal, the depot, the layover.

Member of the Public - Andrew Lynch

I see that 561A gives school buses 30 minutes of heating and air conditioning to maintain passenger comfort, and we support that.

Member of the Public - Andrew Lynch

I'll note that it gives a private motor coach carrying those same children on a field trip absolutely nothing, and that does not make sense.

Member of the Public - Andrew Lynch

Your own code already treats buses differently depending on which bus it is.

Member of the Public - Andrew Lynch

Your time is expired.

Member of the Public - Andrew Lynch

It can be drawn, and it can be drawn correctly.

Member of the Public - Andrew Lynch

I have written testimony submitted and be happy to have a further conversation with the committee.

James F. Gennaro

Mr.

James F. Gennaro

Lynch, thank you very much for your testimony.

James F. Gennaro

That was something I was not aware of, and so you brought some good value added to this proceeding, and I appreciate you for that.

Member of the Public - Andrew Lynch

Thank you.

James F. Gennaro

Thank you.

James F. Gennaro

Next witness, Michelle Pedalicki.

Council Staff

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