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Public Testimony

Kevin McGee says the complaint program changes fleet behavior

New York City Council · Oct 20, 2026 · starts 2:36:41 · 2 min 13 sec

McGee says he participates in the program in his spare time and has seen major fleets like Con Edison, Amazon, and Verizon reduce idling. He urges the Council to reject 561-A and support Intro 48.

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

I'm a participant in this program.

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

I have a day job.

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

I do this in some spare time.

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

Last time I testified about 941, you were fascinated about my interest in doing this because I walk 12 miles a day.

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

It's something that I was already doing before.

James F. Gennaro

How many miles a day?

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

12 miles a day.

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

I was already doing it.

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

You were fascinated before when I testified about 941.

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

Councilmember Villas already cited the figure 2,400 deaths a year from air pollution in New York City.

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

Illegal wildlife contributes to that.

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

It's very much preventable.

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

And I believe, as a participant in this program, that the citizen complaint program works.

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

This law was practically unenforced for almost four decades, has finally some teeth to it with this program.

James F. Gennaro

Could you speak a little louder or closer to the mic?

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

As participants, we've watched major fleets change their behavior, including Con Ed, Amazon, Verizon.

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

We do not see them idling nearly as much as we used to.

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

Because this enforcement changes behavior.

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

But air pollution has a particularly cruel future.

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

Its consequences are indirect, and its victims are easy to overlook.

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

A child in an under-resourced neighborhood has an asthma attack.

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

Someone develops lung cancer.

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

Older New Yorker dies of stroke or heart disease earlier than they would have otherwise.

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

And we rarely see that connection because

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

Unfortunately, it just makes it easier for elected officials to fail to protect them.

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

and to ignore it without consequence.

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

But these are not abstract statistics.

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

These are real people and real lives.

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

And I apologize for the sort of grim analogy here, but if a gunman walked into a school and exacted a quota every year wiping out a classroom, we would not accept that as a minor policy tradeoff.

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

We would not.

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

Accept that as a bargaining chip in regular political horse trading.

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

So the victims of pollution deserve no less urgency, simply because their suffering is less visible.

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

So I would urge you to reject 561A in its entirety.

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

I do not think it's redeemable, but support Intro 48 to bring this program to the communities that need it the most.

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

And to use Councilmember Velasquez's analogy, this would not put the program 10 toes down.

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

It would put it six feet under.

Member of the Public - Kevin McGee

Thank you.