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Council Member Carr explains no votes on COPA and horse carriage bill

New York City Council · Oct 22, 2026 · starts 2:11:43 · 2 min 58 sec

Council Member David Carr explains his vote against COPA and Intro 943A, citing his commitment to private property rights and free enterprise. He argues that ending the horse carriage industry is not justified and hopes for a dignified transition for workers.

David M. Carr

Permission to explain my vote?

Amanda C. Farías

Permission granted.

Amanda C. Farías

Make sure the minority leader gets five minutes.

Amanda C. Farías

Thank you.

David M. Carr

Thank you, Majority Leader.

David M. Carr

I joined government and sought to join government years ago because I had a passionate commitment to both the right to private property as well as to our free enterprise system.

David M. Carr

Private property because history has shown that it is a critical cornerstone to our system of political and economic rights.

David M. Carr

And the free market because while imperfect, it is the best proven way of bringing the most prosperity to the most people.

David M. Carr

And I'll be voting against the new version of COPPA today because it limits the rights of property owners.

David M. Carr

It may be a circumstance where I have great sympathy for the tenants in the buildings that will be

David M. Carr

covered by this legislation and I have very little sympathy for the owners who are selling, but our political rights are sacrosanct and that

David M. Carr

That doesn't change based on the sympathy I have for the individuals who possess them.

David M. Carr

That's the whole point of these political rights, is to ensure that everyone has access to them regardless of our opinion of them and the circumstances in which they're availing themselves of it.

David M. Carr

And similarly, I cannot in good conscience vote in favor of Intro 943A.

David M. Carr

This is the council ending a particular means of employment.

David M. Carr

And colleagues invoked earlier, you know, other forms of employment, other ways of earning a living that once existed in our city and no longer do.

David M. Carr

The examples given, like the milk delivery person, these are jobs that disappeared because of advances in employment and technology, rather, or because of changes in the marketplace.

David M. Carr

Unlike, for example, the one my great-grandparents worked in, which was the fur coat industry, they labored in the garment district here in Manhattan in the Depression era.

David M. Carr

That was an industry that was ended in New York City by the council.

David M. Carr

So I cannot in good conscience support an end to this particular means of work and livelihood for so many New Yorkers when it is no more dangerous than the other means of getting around our city.

David M. Carr

Getting around New York City is dangerous, whether it's by car, by for-hire vehicle, by bus, by bike, or other means, even horse carriages.

David M. Carr

And when there are issues that need to be addressed in terms of safety, we address them through regulation as we have done.

David M. Carr

And so I do hope that since the bill appears a poison,

David M. Carr

to pass today that the commitments that have been articulated here and before today about finding an opportunity for these folks, owners and workers, to continue to earn a living in a way that keeps them

David M. Carr

in the life to which they are accustomed, in a way that keeps them in having dignity in the workplace and in their home.

David M. Carr

I hope that we...

David M. Carr

Meet those expectations.

David M. Carr

And so that being said, I vote no on intros 786A, 905A, 943B, and pre-considered resolution 695, and I on the rest.

Council Staff

Thank you.