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Council Member Julie Won questions DOT on 'daylighting or better'

New York City Council · Oct 27, 2026 · starts 1:50:27 · 3 min 21 sec

Council Member Julie Won asks DOT to define what qualifies as 'daylighting or better' in Vision Zero Reimagined, what metrics are used, whether a leading pedestrian interval counts, and whether 1,000 intersections means all crossing locations. Flynn and Beaton describe context-specific treatments like new signals and pedestrianization.

Julie Won

Okay, thank you so much, Chair Breu.

Julie Won

I want to bring it back to the Vision Zero Reimagined plan that the mayors were on Mondani revealed on September 15, 2026.

Julie Won

The advocates and I are still extremely disappointed that the mayor has walked back on his campaign commitment to support universal daylighting.

Julie Won

And I know that we're going to have the bill heard at another hearing.

Julie Won

But for the Vision Zero Reimagined plan, it commits to daylighting or better, in air quotes, verbatim, at a thousand intersections.

Julie Won

Per year.

Julie Won

Can you please define what better means?

Julie Won

and quantify it or qualify it and what metrics you are used to define that as daylighting or better.

Julie Won

And does this include non-physical infrastructure?

Julie Won

For example, would solely a leading pedestrian interval count?

Julie Won

And does 1,000 intersections mean safety treatments at all crossing locations within those 1,000 intersections?

Mike Flynn

Thank you, Councilmember.

Mike Flynn

You know, I think the starting point to answering that is really about the outcomes, and that's really what we're after here.

Mike Flynn

So with the daylighting or better, it's based on the actual analysis we've done on how these treatments can reduce crashes, basically, or reduce the severity of crashes.

Mike Flynn

And a lot of that depends on the context of each location.

Mike Flynn

If it's a narrow street, a wide street, one-way, two-way, we see, you know, basically the other things we're including there as under or better in certain situations could deliver even better crash reduction to daylighting.

Mike Flynn

And that's why we're defining it that way.

Julie Won

Can you give us a clear example of what qualifies as better than daylighting?

Eric Beaton

Sure, and there's a longer list, but it could be a new traffic signal.

Eric Beaton

It could be pedestrianization of a street.

Eric Beaton

There's a very wide range of things that we've studied that, as the commissioner said, in the right circumstance can provide better outcomes than hardened daylighting.

Eric Beaton

So we absolutely have a strong commitment to doing more hardened daylighting and setting new highs for how much hardened daylighting we're going to.

Eric Beaton

We just want to be clear that it's not the only safety treatment that we have in our books, and we want to make sure that we're doing the right thing in the right places to get the maximum safety benefit.

Julie Won

And the 1,000 intersections are all crossing locations within those 1,000 intersections?

Julie Won

How are you quantifying 1,000?

Eric Beaton

So we would do a safety improvement at that intersection, and when we do that, we look at where is it needed most.

Julie Won

So that still doesn't answer my question.

Julie Won

How are you quantifying 1,000?

Eric Beaton

If we do safety improvements at that intersection, then it counts towards the 1,000 intersections.

Julie Won

But what we're asking is, does a thousand intersection mean safety treatments at all crossing locations?

Mike Flynn

I think it's going to depend on the intersection.

Mike Flynn

As Deputy Commissioner Beaton said, we approach each location individually because we want to maximize the safety benefit.

Mike Flynn

And so it's around looking at the crash history, the crash data, what kinds of crashes are happening.

Mike Flynn

You know, is it...

Mike Flynn

Turning issues?

Mike Flynn

Is it like T-bone type issues?

Mike Flynn

That's going to suggest what the right treatments could be.

Mike Flynn

And so at some intersections, it might be all the corners or all the approaches.

Mike Flynn

At other intersections, it may be like a major road, you know, intersecting with a minor street.

Mike Flynn

So that might look different.