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Council Member Wilson questions DHS on de-escalation and trauma training

New York City Council · Oct 28, 2026 · starts 0:56:16 · 2 min 28 sec

Wilson asks about de-escalation and sensitivity training. Fellini says DHS trains over 15,000 staff through the HEARTS curriculum and follows up on complaints to see if training is implemented.

Crystal Hudson

Moving on to Councilmember Wilson.

Carl Wilson

Thank you, Chair.

Carl Wilson

Hello, Commissioner.

Carl Wilson

From the testimony we heard in the first panel, there were many instances about conflicts that they're having with staff in the shelters.

Carl Wilson

So does DSS...

Carl Wilson

Have rules around de-escalation and sensitivity training for providers, staff, and how is that, how do you conduct oversight to ensure that those are happening?

Erin Dalton

Yes, and I mean, while my colleagues look up the actual numbers, perhaps, I mean, yes, we do have training and support for those very kinds of efforts.

Erin Dalton

And I think I testified, too, that we saw increases in those kinds of complaints.

Erin Dalton

So we're seeing it not just in hearing it, not just from the people who testified today, but seeing it across the board.

Erin Dalton

And it may be an area where we need to do more, but I will let my colleagues speak to the specifics there.

Christine Clarke

Thank you, Commissioner, and thank you for the question.

Christine Clarke

And I think you're hitting on a good point.

Christine Clarke

We can train.

Christine Clarke

We have to make sure that the training is in.

Christine Clarke

Implemented on the ground.

Christine Clarke

So related to trauma-informed training as per local law 49 of 2023, we've trained in the last two years over 15,000 staff around customer service with a focus on what we call HEARTS.

Christine Clarke

So that stands for healing, equity, accountability, respect, transparency, and services.

Christine Clarke

And this is really

Christine Clarke

to make sure that we have a holistic trauma-informed approach to the work that we do.

Christine Clarke

This is every level of staff.

Christine Clarke

This is every day of the week.

Christine Clarke

And we really want to make sure that everyone is implementing the training.

Christine Clarke

And while they may be contracted provider staff at the shelter, it's DHS's responsibility to make sure that that ethos is permeated throughout the shelter.

Carl Wilson

Are the trainings, is it up to the provider to do the trainings or implement the trainings, or does DSS do those?

Christine Clarke

DHS offers the training and requires staff to take it.

Christine Clarke

We then follow up, and I think it's part of the review of complaints and incidents to the point the commissioner made about what we're seeing the increase in.

Christine Clarke

That says something to us.

Christine Clarke

So we say, listen, we implemented HARTS.

Christine Clarke

What's going on at your facility?

Christine Clarke

Is it staff-related?

Christine Clarke

Is it facility-related?

Christine Clarke

Is it related to a particular client or clients?

Christine Clarke

So it allows us to dig into what's going on at a particular site.