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Speaker Menin on ECE pay parity data collection

New York City Council · Jun 8, 2026 · starts 2:49:35 · 3 min 4 sec

Menin asks for average salary and working hours for ECE workers by setting. Deputy Chancellor Hawkins explains the data does not live with NYCPS but the Mayor's Office of Child Care is leading the effort to collect it, and expresses support for compensation parity beyond pay.

Speaker

Moving to pay parity.

Speaker

for early childhood education workers, what is the average salary and working hours for the ECE workforce by setting, including contracted home-based providers, contracted CBO providers,

Speaker

and NYCPS-run programs?

Kamar H. Samuels

Yeah.

Kamar H. Samuels

First of all, thank you for the question.

Kamar H. Samuels

We recognize the need in this area, the great need for ensuring that some of our most vulnerable employees

Kamar H. Samuels

are made, that pay parity is moving.

Kamar H. Samuels

It's a really important issue, and so I'm going to turn it over to Deputy Chancellor Hawkins to talk a little bit more about this.

Simone Hawkins

Thank you, Chancellor.

Simone Hawkins

Thank you, Speaker.

Simone Hawkins

So we're working really closely with the Mayor's Office of Child Care and Early Childhood Education, Speaker, to get that data set.

Simone Hawkins

I want to be clear that there is a subset of the provider universe that lives within and partners with New York City public schools.

Simone Hawkins

We do not manage the full gamut.

Simone Hawkins

And so to understand what that average true cost is across the settings, we are working with the Mayor's Office.

Simone Hawkins

What we can say, it does vary, to your point, right?

Simone Hawkins

And so we have a subset of provider-based that are contracted and center-based programs.

Simone Hawkins

Those that are unionized with DC 37, they have one rate.

Simone Hawkins

Those that are non-union have a different rate.

Simone Hawkins

And then our colleagues in New York City public schools working in district schools have a separate rate of pay, which is dictated by the U.S.

Simone Hawkins

of T, collective bargaining agreement.

Simone Hawkins

The hours vary across these settings, so I can't give you the average, but we are going to work to provide more centralized data at some point.

Simone Hawkins

I want to also reinforce that we are in full support of compensation parity, going beyond that of pay, but understanding that some of our provider partners don't even have select insurances to support their fringe rate.

Simone Hawkins

And so we are in active discussions with the mayor's office.

Speaker

I'm very concerned about the collection.

Speaker

This data has to be collected.

Speaker

I mean, we have to understand this issue because if we ever want to get to universal child care, and this council has worked for years, we passed a whole package of bills back in 2022.

Speaker

Mandating universal child care.

Speaker

So this is not a new issue for us.

Speaker

We've been hammering on this issue of pay parity for many, many years.

Speaker

So I'm concerned that we don't have, that DEWE doesn't have that data.

Speaker

Do you intend to collect data either through a survey, the contracting process, perhaps in partnership with agencies such as DOHMH and others?

Simone Hawkins

So again, we agree, Speaker, but that data would not live with New York City public schools because we are talking about the entire system of early care and education.

Simone Hawkins

And so we are very excited that the Mayor's Office of Child Care and Early Childhood Education is really interested in leading this effort.

Simone Hawkins

So yes, we will be pursuing that data.

Speaker

Okay.

Speaker

I'm going to ask on two other topics and then...

Speaker

turn it over to my colleagues and I'll come back on second round.