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CM Pierina Sanchez questions OMB on CityFEPs cost containment plan development

New York City Council · Jun 9, 2026 · starts 3:53:45 · 4 min 25 sec

Sanchez asks how OMB worked with DSS to develop the $543.5 million FY27 cost containment plan and what indicators were used. Solomon details centralized support, rent reasonableness comparisons, reducing broker fees, and using arrears as alternatives, all without cutting vouchers. DiStefano adds investments in right to counsel and self-sufficiency programs.

Pierina Ana Sanchez

Hello, we're still here.

Pierina Ana Sanchez

Okay.

Pierina Ana Sanchez

So continuing my questions around the FEPS program, at the General Welfare Executive Budget Hearing last week, DSS gave us some

Pierina Ana Sanchez

insight into the cost containment savings in the executive plan for DHS and HRA.

Pierina Ana Sanchez

The plan includes savings of $543.5 million in fiscal 27, $280 million in 28, and $336 million in fiscal year 29.

Pierina Ana Sanchez

And $381 million in fiscal 2030 across.

Pierina Ana Sanchez

HRA and DHS from city, state, and federal sources.

Pierina Ana Sanchez

These savings will be generated through a cost containment plan for the FEPS program and DHS shelters, where DSS aims to more effectively maximize the use of non-city funded housing subsidy programs, ensure long-term shelter residents

Pierina Ana Sanchez

obtain subsidized exits, and improve shelter diversion and intake.

Pierina Ana Sanchez

Can you walk us through how OMB worked with DSS to develop the cost containment plan?

Pierina Ana Sanchez

What specific indicators did OMB and DSS use to estimate the projected savings starting in fiscal 27?

Pierina Ana Sanchez

And if I have time, I'll ask one.

UNKNOWN

Sure.

UNKNOWN

So thank you for your question.

UNKNOWN

Let me start, and then I'll turn it over to Patrick DiStefano to continue.

UNKNOWN

So we worked on, and I alluded to some of this in my testimony, but we looked at certain things in terms of centralizing central support, in terms of operational support, and finding other efficiencies.

UNKNOWN

So it was a few things that we talked about.

UNKNOWN

Rent reasonableness, for example.

UNKNOWN

We talked about comparing legal rents against the division of homes and community renewal legal rent.

UNKNOWN

data list.

UNKNOWN

We talked about reducing broker's fees.

UNKNOWN

We talked about alternative ways that we can potentially use arrears, for example, rent arrears through one-shot funding to be able to

UNKNOWN

find a different pathway for families that may be facing eviction.

UNKNOWN

So we talked about those and all of these things.

UNKNOWN

What was the North Star here was without cutting vouchers, without cutting vouchers.

UNKNOWN

At the same time, we looked at ways that

UNKNOWN

And this is a one-time savings in terms of fiscal 27, which is can we, and this goes to your earlier question, council member, where we can look at ways to

UNKNOWN

vacate some of the hotels and into shelter capacity where it exists, and that achieves savings in FY27.

UNKNOWN

Patrick, I don't know if you want to add anything to that.

Patrick DiStefano

All the things the director said fit into this very holistic view of what we're doing here.

Patrick DiStefano

I mean, even before that, you know, before you get to the front door, we've invested more in right to counsel, $20 million or $40 million more for that.

Patrick DiStefano

So we're trying to prevent evictions.

Patrick DiStefano

We want to get every step of the process, people from not entering shelter to when they get into shelter, if they get a voucher, they have education and training opportunities to be more self-sufficient.

Patrick DiStefano

So holistically, we looked at every aspect of it, and that's how we arrived at these conclusions.

Pierina Ana Sanchez

Thank you.

Pierina Ana Sanchez

I'm going to say a statement instead of a question.

Pierina Ana Sanchez

To respect time, if the chair will allow.

Pierina Ana Sanchez

I think it is fair to say that settlement negotiations around the FEPS expansion, there needs to be a number in the budget this year in this negotiation.

Pierina Ana Sanchez

And so I'm hoping that with the controller and the council's more rosy projections for revenue in this year with the savings that are being identified, maybe more savings that are being identified, that we really get there

Pierina Ana Sanchez

in terms of being able to expand vouchers for families that need it.

Pierina Ana Sanchez

I think we can do so much more.

Pierina Ana Sanchez

And just on my question before, I do want to make sure that we get on the same page that FEPS is cheaper on a per person basis than shelter is because I just because I believe you.

Pierina Ana Sanchez

I believe that you want to focus you and your colleagues in this administration want to focus on permanent housing.

Pierina Ana Sanchez

I believe that you mean that and I believe that this administration and this council can think big together and that we can be the first sort of administration to pivot the city from fulfilling our right to shelter mandate through shelter

Pierina Ana Sanchez

and do that instead in housing.

Pierina Ana Sanchez

We can be the beginning of a title shift.

Pierina Ana Sanchez

So I just really wanted to emphasize that and thank you chair for the extra time.