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Public Testimony

Student Vinny Dahl on AI detection failures and geographic education access

New York City Council · Jun 24, 2026 · starts 3:31:43 · 3 min 32 sec

Vinny Dahl, a 15-year-old sophomore, testifies about Intro 684 and geographic barriers to education, then demonstrates how AI detection tools fail by showing a ChatGPT paragraph that bypasses detectors and Chancellor Samuels' speech flagged as 40% AI. He argues DOE cannot effectively regulate AI and detection will harm innocent students.

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

Good afternoon.

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

My name is Vinny Dahl and I'm 15 and I'm a sophomore at Queenside School for the Sciences.

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

Today I come here to talk about two things.

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

Well, AI is part of it, but first I want to talk about introduction 684-2026 about geographic location and how it affects students.

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

First of all,

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

Education and the quality of education is not the only thing that affects students.

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

Depending on how far they live away from schools, it affects on how well or how much education they get.

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

If they cannot come to school on time because of the MTA, they cannot receive a quality education.

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

These are the omni-cards we are provided.

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

When these fail, students cannot receive equitable education.

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

Most students, especially with those with disabilities or special education, often live further away from their schools or often receive more struggles in getting to their schools.

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

Now, this...

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

Inequality can lead to a plethora of issues.

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

Now, I want to reserve the rest of my time to talk about AI.

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

Artificial intelligence is not as easy or as simple as we are portraying it as.

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

Part of the issue is how easy or how undetectable AI can be.

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

There is no regulation the DOE can put to ban AI in schools.

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

This is a chat GBT paragraph.

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

I can't humanize it.

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

There's softwares that can help humanize it, which turns a GBT version to something that cannot get flagged by detectors, which teachers often use.

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

This is the result after I humanized it.

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

Now, it also, detectors historically does not work and nothing can work.

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

This, quickly, this is a speech from Kamar Samuels.

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

This is it getting flagged for 40% AI.

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

There's no way the DOE can regulate AI.

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

And if it does regulate AI, it will eventually affect innocent students who didn't use AI.

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

That'll be all.

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

Thank you.

Carmen N. De La Rosa

Thank you.

Carmen N. De La Rosa

You have a very famous alum from the school you go to.

Carmen N. De La Rosa

His name is Alejandro Carvajal.

Carmen N. De La Rosa

He's sitting right next to me.

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

We're getting a new building.

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

I heard.

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

Congratulations.

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

Yes, thank you.

Carmen N. De La Rosa

That was all him.

Carmen N. De La Rosa

I don't know if you noticed.

Carmen N. De La Rosa

He's building it.

Carmen N. De La Rosa

With AI.

Carmen N. De La Rosa

Thank you so much for...

Carmen N. De La Rosa

No, he's not.

Carmen N. De La Rosa

I'm kidding.

Carmen N. De La Rosa

Thank you so much for your testimony today.

Member of the Public - Vinny Dahl

Thank you.

Carmen N. De La Rosa

On the next panel, and as always, if I mispronounce your name, I apologize in advance.

Carmen N. De La Rosa

You will correct me for the record.

Carmen N. De La Rosa

Tania Nasser-Frederick, Edgar Trout.

Carmen N. De La Rosa

Travis Prox.