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Chair Sanchez on cost drivers for carrying charge increases and balloon loan outcomes

New York City Council · Jul 15, 2026 · starts 2:07:36 · 1 min 3 sec

Sanchez asks whether HPD has an accounting of how much increases are due to capital vs. operating costs. Phillips says it's almost always operating expenses, as HPD structures debt so residents don't pay principal/interest. Sanchez asks what happens to the balloon; Phillips says it's refinanced with extended affordability.

Pierina Ana Sanchez

And then my final question is coming from some of our friends in advocacy is, does HPD have an accounting for how much of carrying charges increases are due to capital expenditures versus

Pierina Ana Sanchez

more of the operating costs?

Pierina Ana Sanchez

So you mentioned utilities, you mentioned insurance, but do you have a sense of the relative reason for the cost drivers?

Adam Phillips

So not off the top of my head, Julie.

Adam Phillips

Yeah, I was going to say it's almost always just the operating expenses.

Adam Phillips

We have the ability to structure our debt in a way where the residents don't have to pay towards our debt service payments, right?

Adam Phillips

So we'll defer and accrue principal and interest, and there's a balloon at the end.

Adam Phillips

And in that way, it mitigates the increase on maintenance and rents.

Pierina Ana Sanchez

Yeah.

Pierina Ana Sanchez

And one-on-one question, what happens to the balloon?

Pierina Ana Sanchez

At the end?

Adam Phillips

I mean, it gets rolled out.

Adam Phillips

Usually we refinance it.

Pierina Ana Sanchez

It's refinancing in exchange for affordability restrictions for longer.

Adam Phillips

Yeah, that's exactly right.

Pierina Ana Sanchez

Thank you.