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Public Testimony

Richard Heitler on loan delays costing Village East Towers over $500,000

New York City Council · Jul 15, 2026 · starts 3:01:15 · 10 min 18 sec

Heitler details how a three-year delay in closing on a capital improvement loan cost Village East Towers over $500,000 in additional pipe repairs, water tank replacement, and sidewalk shed costs, arguing delays are financially devastating.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

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Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

First of all, I do want to thank you for the opportunity to testify, also to attend the hearing.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

I come into this hearing feeling that I am speaking to friends and supporters.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

We appreciate what you have done to get more funding allocated into the budget, and we appreciate your support for Mitchell Llama Housing.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

My name is Richard Heitler.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

I have been a resident of Village East Towers on the Lower East Side since 1975.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

I'm older than all of you.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

And I've been on the board for 20 years, 18 of which is president.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

I'm currently the treasurer.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

I like to try to drive things to a number.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

I'm also a founding member.

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member of Cooperators United for Mitchell-Lama, as is Valerie, as is Sally, as is Sam Moskowitz.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

We already have a roundtable.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

It's called the Board Members Roundtable, and it's people who are pro-Mitchell-Lama, got themselves elected to the board, and we share information and we do peer consulting about how we can do a better and better job.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

Now, as you can see, I have a six-page testimony.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

I will not even attempt to summarize it in two minutes.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

I will hopefully say enough to at least, I don't know, encourage you to read it.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

But I've been listening to the discussion and the debate back and forth.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

So I want to make some comments about testimony that I will have not submitted, but will submit within the next 72 hours.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

We all recognize that rent increases are necessary.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

We are all horrified when they are this extreme and this sudden.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

And I want to say that I intend to, hi, HPD, I intend to take Adam's invitation.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

He said, if anybody has a proposal for an annual rent increase, I would take a look at it.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

I have it.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

It's nine pages long.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

I've spent...

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

The better part of eight months working on it and vetting it with various allies.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

And I'll give you the

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

Briefest summary, you got to scrap the whole complicated, unwieldy, unreadable three-year rent increase system.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

You ask for huge schedules that none of our shareholders can read.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

And you produce an information when you finally get to the notice of approval, nobody understands what that means either.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

Okay?

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

The system, I want to tell you what we're currently doing at Village East Towers and have for years, and the system that we propose.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

One, it must be annual.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

If you really are looking at our annual financials, you can see immediately if there's a gap.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

It doesn't take a lot of math to fill it and figure out how much you need.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

You look at the operating deficit and the unpaid bills, and you come up with a proposal.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

And for this reason, I think scrap the three years.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

It's too complicated.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

It's too cumbersome.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

Rent increases have to be annual because nobody can actually anticipate what's happening three years down the road.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

Secondly, the system of review and approval has to take place in a period of between not more than 90 or 120 days.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

At Village East Towers, we have information.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

Well, first of all, I'm the treasurer.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

I talk about finance.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

At every open board meeting, and we have them monthly.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

And when our, can you give me a moment?

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

Yes, finish, yes.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

I will be as brief as I can, but I need you to reset the clock.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

And it's the issue here is we have informational in-house meetings that are presided over by the board of directors and our accountant and our lawyer.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

And we explain to every resident.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

Exactly why the rent increases are needed and how much it's going to cost for their apartment.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

None of which is included in the notification letter that they will later get from HPD.

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And then we're done.

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And then we have to wait for HPD approval.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

We had a deadline.

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We're in the middle.

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We're in the second phase of a...

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Of a rent increase of five and five and five.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

And it's higher than I would like, but it was needed.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

It is the third rent increase that I put through during my term on the board.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

We knew that our previous three-year rent increase expired.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

And we needed a new one by November 1st.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

We tried our hardest to do everything right.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

We got final HPD approval to put the next rent increase in effect on September 1st of the following year.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

That gap blew it $200,000.

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hole in our budget.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

And so my, if I have a theme, it is delays cost money

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

and we have to come up, we have to look at our system, see what's really necessary and what's not, and figure out how we can do it faster.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

Six page, the small one, testimony that you have in front of you has five points.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

The first of which is faster processing for loans.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

We have refinanced with HPD and HDC and we love you guys.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

And the HPD people that I've worked with have been capable, dedicated, hardworking, and the system stinks.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

We are one of those co-ops.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

We're trying to figure out how you manage capital repairs.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

But we did an IPNA way back when, before anybody asked for it.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

We developed a scope of work, and we started working with HPD to develop a major capital improvements loan.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

We have been working on that loan for three years, and we have not closed.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

We have been told that we will close by the end of the month, and I hope that's real, because I've also calculated the cost of that delay.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

Part of our IP&A included replacement of all the black pipe.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

The old brass plumbing, fabulous.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

But the drain pipes are cast iron and they leak.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

And we have...

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

We have been trying to patch cast iron, and when they leak, they flood, and ceilings and walls are damaged.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

We have, so the delay has cost us several hundred thousand dollars.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

We knew from our IPNA that we had to replace the water tank.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

It would not wait till loan closing.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

We did it ourselves.

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It was a hit on the operating budget.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

It should have been a capital expense in excess of $100,000.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

We got one of our local law 11 buildings done.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

We have two more to go.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

We cannot afford to do, because those two things totally devastated our reserves.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

We have to wait until we close the loan until we can do the local law 11 work.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

There's a kink in the code, although there is no danger of anything falling.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

If you have a condition that an engineer says requires repairs and you don't repair it in a year, then the...

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

The sidewalk sheds have to go up.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

Sidewalk sheds are costing us $25,000 a month.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

The delay is going to...

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You add all these three numbers together, and the failure...

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

We had a...

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We did everything right.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

We got an IPNA.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

We had a scope of work.

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We got the scope of work.

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We got scope of work approved.

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We got it bid out.

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We had a successful bid in January of 2025.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

And the fact that we have not been able to close on the loan has cost us more than half a million dollars.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

The other pieces of my six-page thing are five other suggestions for how to keep Mitchell Lama affordable, and they're nerdy, and they're small bore.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

And that should be easy.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

We also, in addition to the great big loan programs, we need a little loan program to repair vacant apartments.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

When an expensive piece of equipment goes down, it needs to be replaced.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

We need a loan program that can close on a discrete scope for a small amount of money in 30 days or less.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

That's my second point.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

My third is we need mortgages for new purchases.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

And if you want to speak, one of you guys talked about turnover and the questions of turnover takes a long time.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

A lot of it is the buyer has trouble raising the money and he can't get a mortgage.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

And Sony may.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

Will not do mortgages for Mitchell Llamas or limited equity co-ops.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

I got two more.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

So if you could just quickly summarize.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

One sentence each.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

Yeah, quickly summarize, yes.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

I'm with Gail Brewer.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

You have to end 2 to 11 conversions.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

They just make the co-op less affordable.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

And I have my last one for my brothers and sisters in Mitchell Lama Rentals.

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each and every one of them.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

We're very pleased that everybody's interested in TOPA and COPA, and I hope it passes soon.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

Don't forget the Mitchell Llamas.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

Every Mitchell Llama rental should have the option to become a Mitchell Llama co-op and receive the technical support, legal support, training, and technical assistance needed to make a credible bid.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

And thank you for your time.

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

And any of your staff members who want to talk to me about any of these things,

Member of the Public - Richard Heitler

You got my number on the sign-up sheet.