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Christopher Leon Johnson testifies supporting ban, calls it 'great land grab'

New York City Council · Jul 15, 2026 · starts 8:13:24 · 2 min 10 sec

Christopher Leon Johnson testifies supporting the ban, calling it a 'great land grab' that saves lives, criticizing TWU as corrupt, and arguing the union fears losing members to other unions if drivers transition to other industries.

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

Ready?

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

Yeah, hello, my name is Christopher Leon Johnson.

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

I support Intro 943.

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

I wanna say this right now, there's a special place in hell for Jim Gennaro because he is one of the biggest adversaries when it comes to this bill, and many others.

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

I know I can't, I'm trying to be under quorum.

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

I'll say this right now that look, let's keep it 100% that this bill

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

is going to target two properties, the 52nd Street location and 30th Street location.

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

Now, I understand that a lot of people say it's not a land grab.

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

It's a land grab, but it's a great land grab because if that means that this type of land grab will save lives, I'm for it 100%.

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

I'll say this right now that TWU is a powerful union.

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

They are a corrupt union.

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

I got them this morning.

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

They're a real corrupt union.

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

They have a lot of elected officials under their thumb, including the spy ones.

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

I know a lot of you guys turn limited.

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

And they're going to do whatever they got to do to make sure this bill dies in the city council.

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

I hope that you guys have the balls to fight against them.

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

Reynoso lost.

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

The borough president lost against Claire Valdez.

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

If she could defeat him, you could defeat John Samuelson and John Chicharillo in the city council.

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

I'll say this right now that when it comes to amendments, you have to make sure that the people that do the horse carriage drivers are protected.

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

And the only reason why he's pissed off, John Chicharillo is angry about, he's saying about casinos.

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

Everybody in the industry knows he gambles.

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

He gambles a lot in Atlantic City.

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

It's because those casinos and the cleaners, they're under 32BJ and HTC.

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

And he knows if they go to become a cleaner or a host at a casino like Resource World,

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

he's going to lose his members.

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

So won't we just say, like, won't he push for making people bus drivers and bus drivers and conductors?

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

Why is he not doing that?

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

Oh, he don't care because he knows that once that happens, he's scared of getting voted out of office.

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

So I'll say this right now.

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

I support the bill 100%.

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

Like I said, I know this is targeting 38th Street Hub, 38th Street by Javits Center, and on 52nd Street by the West Side Highway.

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

But this is the great land grab.

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

I support this bill.

Member of the Public - Christopher Leon Johnson

Thank you.

Lynn C. Schulman

Thank you.

Lynn C. Schulman

Thank you.

Lynn C. Schulman

Raul?