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John Chiarello (TWU Local 100 President) testifies opposing ban

New York City Council · Jul 15, 2026 · starts 2:47:58 · 3 min 29 sec

John Chiarello, President of TWU Local 100, testifies representing 44,000 union members including carriage drivers, gives condolences to the Mahajan family, compares carriage safety favorably to other transportation, and asks the council to table the bill.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

So good afternoon, City Council members.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

Good afternoon, Julie-Menin, Ms.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

Shulman, Chair.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

I'm John Chiarello, president of TW Local 100.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

I represent 44,000 union members across this great city.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

And I also proudly represent the horse and carriage industry.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

First, I would like to give my sincerest condolences to the family of Raminash Naharan, killed in an accident last month, tragic and unforeseen.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

Our hearts go out to him and his family.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

My members in the horse and carriage industry are mostly immigrant workers and laborers that are in Central Park.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

What about my members'American dream?

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

Councilman Marte was nice enough to give statistics on the industry.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

Let's talk about racetracks.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

That in the last 10 years, 10,000 horses have died in racetracks.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

I don't see anything happening there.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

Let's talk about the food delivery services that run right past this building that nearly ran me down and maim and kill people every single day.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

Electric bikes, Amazon boxes that are propelled by electric means that do not have a license on them.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

Nobody's talking about that.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

But this small microcosm of an industry that has been iconic to Central Park is now under attack, and it's been under attack for quite some time.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

There's a 165-year history.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

I would put them up against any other means of transportation, and I all but guarantee you that they've done worse.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

The other people that aren't my people.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

Uber, pedestrians are run down all the time.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

Are we banning Uber?

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

No, we're not.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

So where is the justice?

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

The animal rights advocates talk about the horses not being treated fairly.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

That's another misrepresentation.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

They get fed and they get five weeks of vacation.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

I am asking the city council to table.

Council Staff

Hey, decorum in the room.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

That's all right.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

Everybody has their moment.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

I've been very patient, so I'm going to finish this.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

I'm asking the City Council to table this and also take up Councilman Gennaro's offer of making a safer place in Central Park.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

This is, the horse and carriage business has been around before the city was even incorporated.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

It's part of the history of this city, and it would be a shame for tourism to annihilate them in one swoop of the hand.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

And as far as union jobs, I don't even know what the...

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

that looks like, and I don't know what it is, but if you're a horse and carriage driver, I don't think you wanna be a host at a Racino.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

I don't think you're looking to do hotel bell hopping or reception.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

So I would caution the council on what they put in this bill.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

And speak with the union, Local 100.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

We move this city, and I want to thank everybody for their time.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

Thank you.

Lynn C. Schulman

Thank you.

Lynn C. Schulman

Who's next on the panel?

Lynn C. Schulman

Okay.