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Schulman questions DCWP on owner license values and transferability

New York City Council · Jul 15, 2026 · starts 1:08:27 · 2 min 15 sec

Schulman questions Ortiz on carriage owner licenses: 68 active, transferable, averaging $70,000 in value, with a 59-day grace period for renewal after expiration.

Lynn C. Schulman

Okay, I'm going to ask some questions for you, Carlos.

Lynn C. Schulman

How many active carriage owner licenses exist currently?

Lynn C. Schulman

Our research shows the number at 52.

Carlos Ortiz

There are 68 carriage licenses currently.

Carlos Ortiz

Okay, Chair.

Lynn C. Schulman

How many carriages are currently in operation?

Carlos Ortiz

I'm not sure how much are operating throughout the day, but there's 68 that are authorized to work.

Lynn C. Schulman

Is that number different than the number of owner licenses?

Carlos Ortiz

68 corresponds to the owner.

Carlos Ortiz

It is the owner license.

Lynn C. Schulman

Okay.

Lynn C. Schulman

But is that different from what's in operation?

Lynn C. Schulman

That's what I'm asking.

Carlos Ortiz

So there are 68 licenses that relate to the carriage.

Carlos Ortiz

Those are the owner licenses.

Carlos Ortiz

There are 208 licenses for drivers.

Carlos Ortiz

I wouldn't say every driver is operating every day.

Carlos Ortiz

The carriages, I think it fluctuates based on what the owner wants to put out that day.

Lynn C. Schulman

What is the average value of a carriage owner license?

Carlos Ortiz

We looked over the bills of sales.

Carlos Ortiz

I think on average, over the many years, there's maybe $70,000 approximately.

Carlos Ortiz

I think that that could fluctuate.

Carlos Ortiz

It could be different negotiating terms in each contract.

Carlos Ortiz

So it's something we can continue to evaluate with the council.

Lynn C. Schulman

Okay.

Lynn C. Schulman

Are owner licenses transferable?

Lynn C. Schulman

If so, how?

Carlos Ortiz

They are transferable.

Carlos Ortiz

Right now there's a cap on the category that I think was instituted 10 or so years ago.

Carlos Ortiz

It requires an agreement between the previous owner and the new one and the notification to the agency as well.

Lynn C. Schulman

What happens to an owner license if it expires?

Lynn C. Schulman

Can it be renewed?

Carlos Ortiz

Yes, I believe we're able to issue up to the cap, which is 68.

Carlos Ortiz

So if there's an expiration, we'll be able to issue a license.

Lynn C. Schulman

Can expired licenses be recovered in any way?

Carlos Ortiz

There's typically a grace period we provide after an expiration to allow a business to come back in and renew.

Carlos Ortiz

This is applicable to all of our categories.

Carlos Ortiz

The grace period is 59 days.

Carlos Ortiz

If you're coming back for a license after the 59-day period, generally you're going to have to get a new license.

Lynn C. Schulman

Thank you.

Lynn C. Schulman

Councilman Amate?