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Wong asks about repeat offenders and hardship standards

New York City Council · Aug 11, 2026 · starts 0:40:36 · 2 min 5 sec

Wong asks what stops a repeat offender with multiple default judgments from using the program the same way as someone with one honest mistake, and suggests a hardship standard to separate struggling homeowners from chronic violators. Lee says the program does not differentiate and is applied equally to all eligible violations.

Phil Wong

Here's my question.

Phil Wong

Sorry.

Phil Wong

Yeah.

Phil Wong

How could you...

Phil Wong

I'm aware of repeated offenders with several default judgments.

Phil Wong

They're in every district.

Phil Wong

They're certainly in my district, and I know who they are.

Phil Wong

So my question is, what is stopping a repeated offender with several default judgments from walking through this program that you're proposing in the exact same way as someone with one honest mistake?

Phil Wong

I mean, I don't see...

Phil Wong

Anything in this bill that would distinguish them?

Richard Lee

No, we are not differentiating.

Richard Lee

We want to ensure that all respondents have an opportunity to cure their existing violations.

Richard Lee

We want better outcomes for individuals and the city.

Richard Lee

And so we are not specifically

Richard Lee

you know, separating or congregating or, you know, doing anything other than implementing a program if a violation is outlawed.

Richard Lee

eligible and to cure the actual violation in hand, then they will be eligible for the amnesty program.

Phil Wong

Yeah.

Phil Wong

Okay.

Phil Wong

I want to follow up.

Phil Wong

Can I have a follow up?

Shaun Abreu

Yeah, your time is still going.

Shaun Abreu

Okay, thank you.

Shaun Abreu

You have more time.

Shaun Abreu

Go ahead.

Phil Wong

See, this is what I find disturbing because you're giving people a second chance.

Phil Wong

All right, fine.

Phil Wong

But there shouldn't be some kind of a hardship standard.

Phil Wong

So we're not putting struggling homeowners in the same category as a landlord who's racking up violations for years and just decided not to pay.

Phil Wong

So can you talk about that?

Richard Lee

I mean, we, again, are producing a program in which if the violation is docketed with Department of Finance, then they have an opportunity to cure those violations.

Richard Lee

And then receive a portion of their fines reduced.

Richard Lee

Right now we are not separating out between bad actors who you might see as bad actors or ones that are getting their judgments for the first time.

Richard Lee

We are just implementing a program that's equal across the board so that if you cure your violations, which is the

Richard Lee

outcome that we're hoping to see here, then you'll be able to reduce your fines.

Shaun Abreu

Thank you.

Phil Wong

Thank you.

Phil Wong

Thank you.