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Deputy Speaker Williams Q&A: Mangin on upzoning research and Southeast Queens homeowners

New York City Council · Sep 1, 2026 · starts 1:54:57 · 4 min 9 sec

Williams cites research showing upzonings are associated with census tracts becoming whiter. Mangin acknowledges the study and argues broad-based approaches like City of Yes that ask all neighborhoods to contribute can address these concerns, and says he would not characterize Southeast Queens as wealthy exclusionary.

Nantasha M. Williams

So New York City specific research has found that upzoning activity was positively and significantly associated with the odds of a census tract becoming whiter.

Nantasha M. Williams

thing that neighborhood upzonings can accelerate gentrification pressure in the short term.

Nantasha M. Williams

Are you familiar with that research?

John Mangin

I'm not sure.

John Mangin

Thank you for the question.

John Mangin

I'm not sure which particular study that you're referring to, but I'm happy to look at it.

Nantasha M. Williams

Yeah, it's by Jenna Davis, How Do Upzonings Impact Neighborhood Demographic Change?

Nantasha M. Williams

It's in the Land Use Policy Academic Journal.

Nantasha M. Williams

So given the strength of your statements about the causes of gentrification, shouldn't evidence pointing in the opposite neighborhood level direction be a part of your analysis?

John Mangin

Absolutely.

John Mangin

And when you mentioned the author of that piece,

John Mangin

I have seen that a couple years back.

John Mangin

It's a few years old.

John Mangin

And I would say this is one of the reasons why at City Planning,

John Mangin

have always advocated for broad-based approaches to addressing the housing shortage that drives gentrification and displacement.

John Mangin

And neighborhood studies that pay attention to parts of the city that may not have been pulling their fair share in terms of housing production.

John Mangin

So like the Soho-Noho neighborhood rezoning, for instance.

John Mangin

And if we're taking a broad-based approach to creating housing,

John Mangin

And if we're paying special attention to maybe some of the wealthier, whiter parts of the city that have not contributed to housing,

John Mangin

production, then we can address some of those issues that are raised by that study.

John Mangin

I fully understand, sympathize, agree with communities, maybe lower income communities of colors who say, why us?

John Mangin

And that is one of the big reasons why

John Mangin

You know, we focused on City of Yes for Housing Opportunity that asks all neighborhoods to contribute.

Nantasha M. Williams

Okay, just a few more questions specifically around homeowners.

Nantasha M. Williams

I know, you know, obviously in your responses, you repeatedly contrast lower income communities of color with wealthier neighborhoods that use political power to restrict housing.

Nantasha M. Williams

But that binary does not describe large parts of Southeast Queens, as you know, you and I discussed, you know, largely black and brown homeowners that are working in middle class.

Nantasha M. Williams

Would you characterize the Southeast Queens community as the kind of wealthy exclusionary community your theory is directed at?

John Mangin

No, I would not, Deputy Speaker.

John Mangin

And I'm a huge supporter of homeownership in general.

John Mangin

I recognize the opportunities that it creates for stability, for wealth creation across generations, and I'm in no way opposed to homeownership.

John Mangin

I mentioned my...

John Mangin

My last job before I came to city planning was to create limited equity co-ops in partnership with black and Latino tenant associations in DC so that they could access

John Mangin

the benefits of home ownership.

John Mangin

It's City of Yes for Housing Opportunity.

John Mangin

Personally eliminated the obstacles in the zoning to affordable homeownership projects.

John Mangin

And it's just part of the broader sweep of the fair housing work that I've engaged in over the course of my career.

John Mangin

Housing choice is not just about neighborhoods.

John Mangin

It's also choice about what type of housing that you want to live in.

John Mangin

For some families, it's going to be an apartment in a central location.

John Mangin

For others, it's going to be a one or two family.

John Mangin

Home a little farther out in the city, and our housing policies should support that full range of choices.

Nantasha M. Williams

I appreciate that.