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Public Testimony

Lade Swanson (Ali Fournay Center) on waitlists, voucher access, and building code barriers

New York City Council · Sep 16, 2026 · starts 1:55:46 · 3 min 20 sec

Lade Swanson of the Ali Fournay Center reports over 400 youth on their wait list, 21-24 year olds waiting six months for crisis beds, and 40 youth nightly at drop-in centers preferring chairs over DHS shelters. They criticize the lack of communication about CityHAP vouchers, share that an attorney took money from their own salary to cover a client's legal fee, and announce plans for legislation to allow overnight sleep in drop-in centers by changing building codes.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

Good afternoon.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

My name is Lade Swanson.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

Pronouns they, them.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

I'm the Senior Director of Advocacy and Global Programs at the Ali Fournay Center.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

I know you share our outrage.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

We have been doing this for a long time.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

We have done the convenings.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

We have written the reports.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

We have come together as a coalition year after year after year saying the same thing again and again and again.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

And you are right that they're just embarrassed and our youth can't.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

Wait in crisis just because they're embarrassed by the mistake and we know what needs to be done and they should be jumping at the chance to fix this because it's not hard and it's not expensive.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

We have over 400 youth on a wait list at AFC.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

21 to 24 year olds are still waiting six months for a crisis bed and every night we have about 40 youth accessing our drop-in centers.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

They'd rather sit in a drop-in chair than go to DHS.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

We were so excited after, you know, 10 plus years of voucher that we got CHAPS.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

Very exciting.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

It was really disappointing to hear that they knew almost nothing about it and haven't met about it, even though we're supposed to have these access to these in March.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

That doesn't feel so reasonable anymore.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

And so we need them to get together and we need our young people and our providers to be at that table because we can't fumble this after we finally got it for the first time.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

I stand with my friends on ADK for...

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

We need case management and mental health providers.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

We currently have wait lists for case management and mental health that we didn't have years ago.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

And the RFP needs to be released.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

I also want to direct you to the $15 million for LGBTQ immigrant legal services that we're trying to get in the October transparency resolution.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

We have 32% of the youth we serve are immigrants.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

We partner with Free to Be Youth Project.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

There's two attorneys for all of our young people plus seven other programs that they serve.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

One thing that I know will outrage you is the Urban Justice Center that does Free to Be Youth and the Sex Workers Project.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

Last month had a client who needed $1,000 to pay for a legal fee.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

They didn't have that money in the budget, so the attorney said, take it out of my salary so that they could pay for it.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

This is where we're at, right?

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

And, like, this should be embarrassing, and we are trying to do the best with what we can, but that should not be happening.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

I also want to name and let you know that I'm working on introducing legislation to fix the overnight sleep in the drop-in centers.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

And we need DOB to change the building codes so that we can allow those exceptions into the beds, group B and A3 classifications for temporary cots and low barrier for that.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

And the second issue is how fast it takes, how long it takes to get these new sites online.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

Are those 20 beds that you were asking?

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

About earlier, our Casa Cecilia site, we've been ready for DOB to do a walkthrough since last summer.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

They just came in July.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

That's 70 youth that could have been accessing a bed in the last year, but it should not have taken this long for them to come through.

Member of the Public - Lade Swanson

So we need maybe an exception for nonprofits that are doing this critical work for folks in crisis, domestic violence, R2Y, et cetera, to fast track these inspections so that we can get these beds faster.