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Public Testimony

Joanne Podell testifies against Intro 90's mandatory lease extension from broker perspective

New York City Council · Sep 16, 2026 · starts 1:44:07 · 2 min 30 sec

Retail broker Joanne Podell, a former small business owner, argues the retail market is strong and successful tenants renew early. She contends the mandatory extension would delay the next generation of businesses and make owners less willing to take chances on new entrepreneurs.

Member of the Public - Joanne

Hi, good afternoon.

Member of the Public - Joanne

Thank you for your time today.

Member of the Public - Joanne

Gail, how are you?

Member of the Public - Joanne

I haven't seen you in a while.

Member of the Public - Joanne

We know each other from lots of different places.

Member of the Public - Joanne

Before I start, I just want to mention quickly, I owned a small business before I became a retail broker.

Member of the Public - Joanne

And so I understand the sensitivity.

Member of the Public - Joanne

I understand how hard it is to run a business.

Member of the Public - Joanne

And I'm very respectful.

Member of the Public - Joanne

Of the need for small businesses to have protections.

Member of the Public - Joanne

I just don't think this is one of them.

Member of the Public - Joanne

I'll just read you my testimony.

Member of the Public - Joanne

Thank you for the opportunity, by the way.

Member of the Public - Joanne

New York City's retail market is strong, and much of that activity is being driven by small and independent businesses, which is fantastic, which is really what we want.

Member of the Public - Joanne

The successful retailers are renewing their leases, often in advance of lease expiration.

Member of the Public - Joanne

And what I mean by that is when you're doing well in a store,

Member of the Public - Joanne

The first thing that you want to do is go to your landlord and say, hey, I'm having a great year.

Member of the Public - Joanne

I've had a great run here.

Member of the Public - Joanne

I want to stay.

Member of the Public - Joanne

So it's not necessary that you have this additional time.

Member of the Public - Joanne

The time comes in advance of that.

Member of the Public - Joanne

You know that your lease is expiring.

Member of the Public - Joanne

Owners and tenants are continuing to work together and reach agreements that allow businesses to grow and invest in the neighborhoods.

Member of the Public - Joanne

It's often a partnership.

Member of the Public - Joanne

In the decades of work that I've done, I often see businesses and owners reach agreements on any issues that may arise during the lease term.

Member of the Public - Joanne

I always say the same thing.

Member of the Public - Joanne

Don't worry about the lease.

Member of the Public - Joanne

You've got to work together.

Member of the Public - Joanne

Pick up the phone and call your owner.

Member of the Public - Joanne

Ask them what you need and see if you can get it together.

Member of the Public - Joanne

I support the council's goal of...

Member of the Public - Joanne

protecting small business and improving transparency.

Member of the Public - Joanne

However, I have concerns that some provisions of Intro 90 will do the opposite, as Steve has mentioned.

Member of the Public - Joanne

First, the mandatory lease extension could delay that next generation.

Member of the Public - Joanne

We've got people that are organized to take possession of spaces, and with the idea that they can't get it that quickly, it's going to hurt them.

Member of the Public - Joanne

When a lease reaches the end of its agreed-upon term, it's a great opportunity for a new, fresh business to start, one that may serve the residents of the community.

Member of the Public - Joanne

And knowing that the tenant has this right could also make owners less willing to take a chance on these new and growing businesses.

Member of the Public - Joanne

And I think that's the biggest issue from the young and growing businesses, that they won't get opportunities for leases as quickly.

Member of the Public - Joanne

Because they will have the problem of, I don't know if these guys are going to make it, but I'm going to have to deal with them anyway for another year.

Member of the Public - Joanne

Anyway, thank you.

Member of the Public - Joanne

I have more to say, but I only got two minutes like everybody else.

Member of the Public - Joanne

Thank you.

Member of the Public - Amauris Gurujung

Thank you.