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Alan Cheng and Superintendent Prayor discuss what schools can do now

New York City Council · Sep 22, 2026 · starts 1:13:22 · 3 min 53 sec

Cheng says principals should be thinking about designing rigorous learning opportunities. Dinowitz pushes back that schools need structure and standardized rubrics, and Cheng brings up Superintendent Michael Prayor to give concrete examples.

Rita C. Joseph

I can.

Rita C. Joseph

And, and,

Alan Cheng

Superintendent Prayer, if you'll get ready for the jump seat, we'll get you to sort of be ready to talk a little bit about your own examples.

Alan Cheng

I think, you know, to this question, which is really, what is it that schools can and should be doing right now?

Alan Cheng

And what is it that the principals are thinking?

Alan Cheng

And when you say...

Alan Cheng

These principals are saying, I've got this idea.

Alan Cheng

This is what I'm thinking about.

Alan Cheng

I think that is where we want them to be.

Alan Cheng

And schools must be thinking about designing those rigorous learning opportunities.

Eric Dinowitz

But how do they design them?

Eric Dinowitz

And I just want to push back.

Eric Dinowitz

I think there's a lot of ambiguity.

Eric Dinowitz

I don't think there's a little ambiguity.

Eric Dinowitz

Like, how are they supposed to know they can work for a year on a portfolio and the Dewey can come back later and say, well, that's not portfolio based assessment.

Eric Dinowitz

What is what is that?

Eric Dinowitz

I mean, they need some sort of guidance, some sort of structure.

Eric Dinowitz

And, you know, we I love that schools are going to have more autonomy and like reflect their communities.

Eric Dinowitz

But to some degree, it goes back to the to the standards.

Eric Dinowitz

Like there has to be some rubric or something that is standardized so principals have a direction in which they can and should go and teachers have a direction.

Eric Dinowitz

We're talking about something that's going to start in a year.

Eric Dinowitz

And there's, to my knowledge, no professional development on what this.

Eric Dinowitz

looks like and how teachers should be shifting their practice.

Eric Dinowitz

Like that's what we're...

Alan Cheng

I think I want to highlight that the New York State standards themselves are not going anywhere.

Alan Cheng

And many of our courses do not result or culminate in Regents examinations.

Alan Cheng

And so this idea that our teachers, our principals have practices in place that already involve multiple measures that allows us to be able to say, what are rigorous demonstrations of what that learning looks like?

Alan Cheng

And sometimes it is through a project.

Alan Cheng

Sometimes it's through an oral defense.

Alan Cheng

Sometimes it's deeply connected to a college course that they are taking.

Alan Cheng

Those are all different ways that are already in place.

Alan Cheng

And so when principals are saying, hey, look, I've got this idea of how much more I can do, we want to be able to leverage that and continue to be able to work with them.

Eric Dinowitz

But I know you know this, the superintendents go into schools.

Eric Dinowitz

I've been in the schools.

Eric Dinowitz

They say, show me your ELA regions, show me your Algebra 1 regions.

Eric Dinowitz

That's it.

Alan Cheng

Yeah, I will say that in addition to asking for that information, because that is absolutely crucial and is part of the core foundation of that learning.

Alan Cheng

We're also asking our superintendents to be able to go into the classroom to say, what are other rigorous forms of demonstration of that learning?

Alan Cheng

Where are students deeply engaged, having an ownership of that particular?

Alan Cheng

their project and where is that going?

Alan Cheng

And we want to make sure that we have these systems where across superintendencies, they're able to learn from each other and really collaborate across those schools.

Alan Cheng

And so I'm going to use this chance to be able to give Michael an opportunity to say a little bit more about what does it look like?

Alan Cheng

Because I really want to be able to push on this notion that

Alan Cheng

Schools have opportunities to learn deeply from each other.

Alan Cheng

Students are informing and guiding this process along the way, which I think is absolutely crucial.

Alan Cheng

And all of this is building towards a higher set of expectations because we know that these multiple measures really...

Alan Cheng

Are able to have shared expectations, common rubrics and guidelines, the very things that you've talked about that we need to make sure that we continue to be able to do with schools.