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Public Testimony

Denise Davis describes PACT leaks, lost subsidy, eviction, and elevator outages

New York City Council · Sep 22, 2026 · starts 2:29:09 · 3 min 26 sec

Denise Davis says she has lived at Penn-Wortman Houses for more than 20 years and has experienced many leaks under the PAC program. She says she lost her subsidy after trying to get answers for over a year, is now in court, and faces chronic elevator outages and repeated electrical failures.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

Good afternoon.

Chris Banks

Excellent.

Chris Banks

Speaking to the mic.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

Good afternoon, Chair.

Chris Banks

Move the mic a little closer so we can hear you.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

I am Denise Davis.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

I'm a resident of Penn Workman Houses.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

I have been in my apartment like 20, more than 20 years.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

But ever since the PAC program began.

Chris Banks

Can you move the mic a little closer so I can, and you can start it, I think.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

Since the PAC, I'm under the PAC program.

Chris Banks

Mm-hmm.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

There have been things that's been broken and leaks and a lot of leaks, a lot of leaks.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

I was not aware that I could address these leaks through, like I could talk to NYCHA about it.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

Right.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

Everything is the CCNC deals with it.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

And they tell me, wait, wait.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

Wait, they said that the whole J line had leaks.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

That went on for almost a year after this.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

Everything was supposed to be new and nice.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

And then when it was time for an inspection, oh, you'll never get past this inspection with all these leaks.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

What am I supposed to do about it?

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

The next thing that I find, they took away my subsidy.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

After I've been trying for more than a year, trying to find out what is going on, why...

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

I lost my subsidy.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

I'm now in court.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

In court for the subsidy, and I don't know what I'm supposed to do.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

I don't understand this whole situation.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

And right now, the elevator, the elevator is like constantly four and five times in one month, no elevator.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

Supposedly, we have no elevators going on here.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

Up to today, there was no elevator.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

This morning, there was three days of no elevator, one elevator.

Chris Banks

And this is a rad pack development.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

Yes.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

Yes.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

This is a pack for yes.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

And then there...

Chris Banks

You have 30 seconds to wrap it up.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

Oh, now what?

Chris Banks

Take your time.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

About...

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

I have to, I don't know how, what am I supposed to do with no lack of, I mean, you're talking about eviction for something I didn't do anything.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

Why is that?

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

And I never could get any answers.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

It's always, you have to deal with C&C.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

Everything is C&C.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

And now with electric.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

This is the third time they have to do the electric again.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

They failed electric for the conversion that they did.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

They keep failing, they're failing, and now they want again.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

Open up their apartment and allow them to do more electric again.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

I can't do anything about that.

Chris Banks

Well, thank you for your testimony.

Chris Banks

Sorry for the experience you're having.

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

What am I supposed to do about the situation?

Member of the Public - Denise Davis

Eviction?

Chris Banks

Yeah.

Chris Banks

Thank you for your testimony.

Chris Banks

We will now move on to Mrs.

Chris Banks

Eves.

Chris Banks

Unless you want to look.

Chris Banks

And move the mic a little closer so we can hear your testimony.