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Farías challenges the point of certification given low Black and Latina contract numbers

New York City Council · Sep 23, 2026 · starts 1:11:41 · 1 min 41 sec

Farías asks what the point of promoting MWBE certification is if only one Black woman-owned and one Latina-owned firm out of a thousand receive contracts. She questions why businesses would endure a convoluted application for such low odds.

Amanda C. Farías

Yeah, I think we all understand that.

Amanda C. Farías

There's a part here that's, I guess, not necessarily connecting.

Amanda C. Farías

What is the purpose of any of us promoting MWBE certification if the numbers that we're hearing in this hearing were one black woman company and one Latina?

Amanda C. Farías

woman-owned company out of a thousand that are provided or offered.

Amanda C. Farías

Sorry, so I wanted to...

Haris Khan

Maybe I misspoke.

Haris Khan

What I was referencing was not a promotion of certification writ large, but rather providing qualified firms.

Amanda C. Farías

I understand that, but I'm saying for us, when we're here and our oversight ability and we're looking at the actual data and you folks are looking at the data, whether you're procuring a list of 20 people to recommend for a $7 million contract.

Amanda C. Farías

What is the point, I suppose, for businesses across the city, specifically black women, Latinas, women of color?

Amanda C. Farías

They see these numbers, they're hearing these numbers.

Amanda C. Farías

Why would they go through this convoluted process, this long application, pay to do all of this?

Amanda C. Farías

When they're the likeliness of all of the business, what's the percentage of businesses that are black women owned that we have in the MWBE system?

Amanda C. Farías

Do we know the percentage?

Haris Khan

Of firms that are certified, Councilmember?

Haris Khan

We can get that, too.

Haris Khan

We definitely have to.

Amanda C. Farías

Okay, for example's sake, let's say 20% of the businesses are black women-owned, 10% of the businesses are black women-owned.

Amanda C. Farías

They're hearing the number of one out of 1,000.

Amanda C. Farías

What's the point of recertifying if the likeliness of them getting that contract is...

Amanda C. Farías

Slimmer to none than anything when they have to do this annually and the likeliness of them getting in.