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Public Testimony

Matt Gove of Surfrider Foundation supports Intro 896 but opposes compostable loophole

New York City Council · Sep 23, 2026 · starts 2:05:21 · 2 min 7 sec

Matt Gove says the Surfrider Foundation appreciates Council Member Epstein's bill to reduce single-use cups. He warns that replacing them with compostable cups is a false solution and says reusable or thin aluminum cups are better options.

Member of the Public - Matt Gove

Yeah, I'm here for the bill about reusable and single-use cups that's on the agenda.

Lincoln Restler

Go for it.

Member of the Public - Matt Gove

Oh, we're doing it all right now.

Lincoln Restler

This is you.

Lincoln Restler

This is your chance to give your three minutes of glory.

Member of the Public - Matt Gove

All right.

Member of the Public - Matt Gove

Well, I thank you all for hearing this bill.

Member of the Public - Matt Gove

And sorry, I lost track of what was going on with the first issue on the agenda that was going on for the last two hours.

Member of the Public - Matt Gove

I'm Matt Gove from the Surfrider Foundation, and we appreciate Councilmember Epstein's bill to try to reduce single-use cups used by city government.

Member of the Public - Matt Gove

I think everyone knows now.

Member of the Public - Matt Gove

How much damage plastic has to human health, and also how much garbage it creates, and the city has to pay to get rid of that garbage, and when that garbage is burned, it releases lots of pollutants.

Member of the Public - Matt Gove

So we thank you for the bill, and I've heard there are rumors that the text may change.

Member of the Public - Matt Gove

We're very concerned with the text.

Member of the Public - Matt Gove

Where it says the city can just

Member of the Public - Matt Gove

replace those single-use cups with compostable cups.

Member of the Public - Matt Gove

Compostable sounds good, but it's one of those rabbit holes that you go down and then you are not wanting to use one of these compostable cups because they're just as bad, sometimes even worse than just a regular throwaway cup.

Member of the Public - Matt Gove

So we're hoping that'll be taken out.

Member of the Public - Matt Gove

Really, the only option is a reusable cup, or if you have to, there's those very thin aluminum cups that can be reused or easily recycled.

Member of the Public - Matt Gove

So sadly for cups, there's not a lot of options, but reusable always works.

Member of the Public - Matt Gove

So we thank you for this bill and thanks for the time to testify.

Lincoln Restler

Thank you so much, Matt.

Lincoln Restler

We really appreciate your thoughtful testimony in support of Councilmember Epstein's legislation around compostable cups.

Lincoln Restler

And we're really happy to have the chance to have a hearing on it today.

Lincoln Restler

We'll now go to Ms.

Lincoln Restler

Eve Fox.